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Originally posted by Minnie1985
Hi, thats a good question, but its also one i can't answer as i don't know what the handshakes stand for or if the passwords have some great meaning or not...
If people opening their third eye is a threat to the Elite, then why not reveal to all how to open and use their third eye?
Have there ever been Freemason's that were also a members of the Elite ?
Does the opening of the third eye have anything to do with the belief in a Supreme Being ?
Are we naturally meant to use our third eye, if yes, then why keep it amongst a select few ?
Is someone that doesn't believe in a God or Supreme Being still able to open and use their third eye ?
Is the opening of the third eye for ALL Freemason's, or is it only for the Freemason's that WANT to have it opened ?
The reason i ask these questions is because the way your post came across it seemed as though you may of been hinting that there was a possible private battle between the Elite and Freemason's, where the Elite need us "dumbed down" to keep them in Elite positions so they can live their Elite lifestyle, but Freemasonry had the answer or solution to our escape from that system. I may of read more into your post then what you meant, but for me, it did seem to come across that way. Is that what you were implying ?
“… after the example of our predecessors, we intend to turn our attention to the Masonic society, to its whole doctrine, to its intentions, acts, and feelings, in order to illustrate more and more this wicked force and stop the spread of this contagious disease …” —Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus
“…the All-seeing eye…This is the eye of freemasonry, the third eye. While I am credibly formed that few Masons understand their own symbols, the fact remains that they use them…” —Dr. George Washington Carey, The Wonders of the Human Body,1918
“The Order of Freemasonry acknowledges the ‘All Seeing Eye’ as the Eye of Great Wisdom.’ This ‘Great Wisdom’ is said to offer those who seek the sacred mysteries an understanding of illumination, inner vision, and intuitive knowledge. Contact with this great wisdom occurs through the ‘Third Eye’ (pineal gland) located inside the forehead.” —Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh, Eden, 2006
“The common eye sees only the outside of things, and judges by that, but the ‘all seeing eye’ pierces through, and reads the heart and the soul, finding there capacities which the outside didn’t indicate or promise, and which the other kind couldn’t detect.” —Mark Twain, Famous American Author and Freemason, 1899
“The All-Seeing Eye…also emblematic of the…third eye of the human being…has been found amid the ruins of every civilization….” —Grace Morey, Mystic Americanism, 1924
“The world owes all its correct and profound conceptions of the Deity, and its knowledge of the existence of the human soul, to the great Aryan race.” —Albert Pike, Irano-Aryan Faith and Doctrine as Contained in the Zend Avesta
“The real source from whence the Ancient Wisdom came was…Old India, the Mother of Civilizations and Religions, and of the esoteric or concealed wisdom.” —Dr. J.D. Buck, Mystic Masonry
“It has been called “The Third Eye.” The Ancient Hindus called it the Eye of Siva…It is atrophied, and therefore dormant in the average individual…The Eye of Siva is, in fact, an All-Seeing-Eye; for it practically annuls Space and Time as concepts on the physical plane… A real Master [Mason], then, has the Eye of Siva; the pineal gland, dormant in others, is active in him…” —Dr. J.D. Buck, Mystic Masonry
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Minnie1985
Our secrets are nothing that you don't already know, they are just taught in a way that makes them stick. So don't worry too much about WHAT we teach. But if you are interested, you go to a lodge and ask. Being a woman, you cannot join a regular lodge as they are a fraternity. There are what is called irregular lodges that teach the same thing, the same way I am told who do admit women. If you are truly interested, U2U me and I will put you in touch with someone who can help direct you.
Originally posted by no1smootha
reply to post by AussieDingus
I understand that you are making an analogy to the life changing experiences of initiations in shamanic cultures, and the similarities are indeed interesting, but no there are no drugs or chemicals used during any Freemasonic Initiations. I have sometimes wondered if it is possible that emotional states experienced during the degrees does stimulate naturally occurring neurochemical responses that imprint the mind and consciousness of a Brother being initiated, but this is all pure conjecture not based on any scientific inquiry.
edit on 27-11-2012 by no1smootha because: (no reason given)
Does what you're saying refer to frequencies at all ? If say the majority of people aren't "ready", then what is it thats keeping them from being ready, or what could be done to improve the situation so that they were ready ?
What happens to these memebers of the Elite if they are exposed by other Freemason's ?
If we are naturally meant to use our third eye, then what are the things that have stopped us from using it as a majority ? Is there any credit to genetically modified crops, Fluoride in the water supply, Vaccination programs etc, contributing to the dumbing down process in your opinion ?
Is what Master Mason's go through due to any type of drug use ? Now before you either laugh or cringe at that question, the reason i ask is i have heard from other, well credentialed and educated people that when they took a certain "trip" that also had a life changing experience and reported seeing other entities. I'm not just talking about someone dropping an acid trip and spinning out for the next 48 hours, i'm talking more about people that are very educated and took the "trip" in the company and under directions of a local tribe that over saw the experience such as Graham Hancock for example. I'm not sure if you've heard of him or his studies, but i personally found some of his studies very, very interesting to say the least and goes along way to explaining where i'm coming from with this question about possible drug use being involved. And from other research i have done i have heard that the human brain produces one of the most potent drugs known the man called '___', its the drug that the brain uses to make us dream apparently. Its because of these examples that i ask the question of possible drug use being involved in the process of opening the third eye. I understand you cannot answer that question with 100% accuracy due to not yet being a Master Mason [i assume], but i am interested in you answer.
Originally posted by darkhorserider
Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by darkhorserider
Sorry to nitpick but people can worship something unknowingly.
For example money, most will do anything for it, but claim
they don't worship it.
Point is, people subconsciously exalt all sorts of things without
being fully aware of theirthoughts or actions.
Meh...... I dunno about that.
Of course we sarcastically mention things like money, and football as religions, but people don't really look to those things for spiritual guidance. People definitely prioritize money above all else, and they definitely dedicate more time to pursuing money than spiritual growth, but it isn't "worship."
I do not believe a person could unknowingly worship an evil entity, while thinking they were worshipping something good. If all their time and energy is poured into worshipping and emulating the good parts of a religion, and then someone pulls a gotcha and says, it was really Satan all along..... so what? If the time and energy went into good works, and good deeds, and honorable actions, then switching the names is meaningless. There is no way someone could trick you into doing great things for an evil entity.
Although, sometimes I wonder if the opposite might work. It seems a lot of people get tricked into doing evil things in the name of a good entity.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
B. It is a known Truth that Satan appears as the Angel of Light and will continue to until Revelations.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by NarrowGate
B. It is a known Truth that Satan appears as the Angel of Light and will continue to until Revelations.
Really? Where has he appeared and when and where is he going to make another visit?
Originally posted by NarrowGate
I am not going to debate that fact, if it is a mountain of evidence you want look for it; it is there.
Do you actually believe Satan does not appear as benevolent?
I would really like a Christian Mason's perspective, but any will do actually.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by NarrowGate
I am not going to debate that fact, if it is a mountain of evidence you want look for it; it is there.
There is zero evidence of Satan making any appearances anywhere.
Do you actually believe Satan does not appear as benevolent?
I think the question you should be asking is, 'Do you believe in Satan (Lepruchans, Chupacabras, The Tooth Fairy, etc.)?'
The answer is no.
I would really like a Christian Mason's perspective, but any will do actually.
I was Christian at one time but I did not believe half of the nonsense they tried to teach me even then, particularly about Satan.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
I assume you believe all cases of demonic possession, obsession, oppression, infestation, and so on are just psychiatric problems.
Are you a good example of Masonry?
You claim to be a high level Mason....
You have confirmed for me why I would not like to be a Mason. Not with your beliefs but with your mentality. You might not have answered any questions, but at least you unintentionally answered one.