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Originally posted by delusion
Originally posted by AFewGoodWomen
Isn't Mercury passing in front of the sun at this time?
Not according to my Stellarium program, although there is a bit of a line up with venus and saturn on one side, sun/moon, then mercury, almost all in a nice tidy line, so that might be visible during the eclipse (dunno on how visible mercury is at dark though, never knowingly seen it) and would certainly look awesome.
However, none of that changes the fact that OP mentions the guy saying a second sun will be visible. Known planets won't fit the 'prophecy' and would not vindicate a hopeful hippy's delusion.
Speaking of eclipses, could someone please explain to me, with nice simple pictures and pretty colours, how it is that a solar eclipse does not influence the tides in the way that a full moon would? It confuses me. First of all, a full moon is on the other side of the earth to the sun, yet combines withh the gravitation of the sun to produce a higher tide. Yet when the moon is actually lined up RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SUN, how come THAT doesn't produce a higher tide?
Common sense would dictate that the new moon, being in line with the sun on one side of the earth, would have a higher influence than a full moon, with the sun and the moon on opposite sides of the earth. Wouldn't it?edit on 11-11-2012 by delusion because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
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hope this makes senseedit on 11-11-2012 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by delusion
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
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hope this makes senseedit on 11-11-2012 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
Thanks for trying. Sorta, but I am particularly dense.
Well, I thought that full moon WAS when the earth was between the moon and sun, (not completely of course, because that would be a lunar eclipse), with the moon in a position to fully reflect the sun's light onto us. When it's new, it's backside is to the sun creating a shadow on it's face relative to us, which is when it's between the sun and us (not in an eclipse fashion). Therefore, all solar eclipses would take place at new moon, all lunar eclipses (earth's shadow onto moon) at full.
The moon is just now coming to new, and it's rising, in the east, just before the sun. Therefore it is more or less on the same *side* as the sun. When it's full, it rises in the east as the sun has set, therefore on the opposite side from the sun.
The moon's normal tidal influence combines with the sun's tidal influence when it's full, on the opposite side of the earth to the sun (generally speaking), to create higher tides (spring tides). I guess I am unclear as to why this happens when there are two seperate points, on opposite sides of the earth, rather than when new, it is on the same side as the sun and should combine with it better.
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Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
I'm willing to be corrected, but I'm pretty certain the sun has negligible effect on the tides. Its 99% moon and earth
The highest high tides occur Because the Sun also exerts a gravitational attraction on the Earth, there are also monthly tidal cycles that are controlled by the relative position of the Sun and Moon. when the Sun and the Moon are on the same side of the Earth (new Moon) or on opposite sides of the Earth (full Moon). The lowest high tides occur when the Sun and the Moon are not opposed relative to the Earth (quarter Moons).
Originally posted by Pauligirl
reply to post by delusion
Tides
The highest high tides occur Because the Sun also exerts a gravitational attraction on the Earth, there are also monthly tidal cycles that are controlled by the relative position of the Sun and Moon. when the Sun and the Moon are on the same side of the Earth (new Moon) or on opposite sides of the Earth (full Moon). The lowest high tides occur when the Sun and the Moon are not opposed relative to the Earth (quarter Moons).
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
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isnt the "Highest high tide" diagram wrong? surely you would get a bigger bulge on the left (moon+sun in same direction) with no outward bulging on the right?edit on 11-11-2012 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
When the Earth, Moon and Sun are aligned for Spring Tides, are they highest at Full or New Moon?
"Spring tides are about the same height whether at New or Full Moon, because the tidal bulge occurs on both sides of the Earth...the side toward the Moon ( or sun) and the side away from the Moon (or Sun). They will not be equally high because the distance between the Earth and Sun, and the Earth and Moon both vary and so will their tide producing effectiveness. The highest Spring tides occur when the Moon is at its closest to the Earth...the so-called Perigee Tide."- Dr. Odenwald's ASK THE ASTRONOMER
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
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isnt the "Highest high tide" diagram wrong? surely you would get a bigger bulge on the left (moon+sun in same direction) with no outward bulging on the right?edit on 11-11-2012 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by delusion
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
EDIT:
isnt the "Highest high tide" diagram wrong? surely you would get a bigger bulge on the left (moon+sun in same direction) with no outward bulging on the right?edit on 11-11-2012 by siliconpsychosis because: (no reason given)
yeah, see, that was my basic question in the first place.
(although I had incomplete information, not knowing there's higher tides at both full and new moon).
It's also an interesting trivia to consider that a solar eclipse can only take place at a new moon, and a lunar at a full one. We don't normally have a good mental picture of these simple movements (unless we're enthusiasts) and getting a good visualisation really makes us appreciate the 'cosmic ballet' going on all the time around us.edit on 12-11-2012 by delusion because: (no reason given)
The solar tidal force is 46% as large as the lunar.
Originally posted by magma
Originally posted by ColAngus
reply to post by DenyObfuscation
Uh oh.
www.cairns.com.au...
Is this the filthy hippie from the OP?
Nope not the same guy.
Originally posted by Unity_99
www.sergey-apin.ru...
Here it is again, for anyone who can translate. Would really like to know what is being said in full.
The thing is, was thinking, if eclipses can cause earthquakes. If they do affect the core because earth runs on sunshine.
Then what do chemtrails do?
Instead of blocking something harmful like some suspect, could chemtrails be put up to block the sunlight and create earthquakes?