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The shooting broke out around 10:30 a.m. Wednesday at World Changers Church International, led by televangelist Creflo Dollar. The victim was sent to South Fulton Hospital in critical condition but later died, according to police sources.
Police are looking for a black Subuaru in connection with the shooting. They identified 52-year-old Floyd Palmer as a suspect.
Police have identified the suspect in the deadly shooting at World Changers International Church as 52-year-old Floyd Palmer, a former church employee. He remains on the loose, and is pictured in this photo.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
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great and I live in Texas and i can tell you right now theres been at least 20 shootings related to cartels along the boarder in just the last week.......
Just because its not on the MSM doesnt mean it doesnt happen......
Again this has less to do with guns and more to do with the environment.....
"While it is important to emphasize that the FBI's investigation is actively continuing, there are strong preliminary indications that the death of United States Border Patrol Agent Nicholas J. Ivie, 30, and the injury to a second agent was the result of an accidental shooting incident involving only the agents," James Turgal, special agent in charge of the FBI's Phoenix division, said in a statement.
Originally posted by relocator
Here you go a former church employee...
Police have identified the suspect in the deadly shooting at World Changers International Church as 52-year-old Floyd Palmer, a former church employee. He remains on the loose, and is pictured in this photo.
FOX5
edit on 24-10-2012 by relocator because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by relocator
I just found this link that others may find interesting in regards to Ministry violence statisics...
Source
Dollar is known for his controversial teachings of prosperity theology.[9] He has been criticized for his lavish lifestyle as he owns two Rolls-Royces, a private jet, a million dollar home in Atlanta, and a $2.5m home in Manhattan,[9] which he sold for $3.75m in 2012.[13] Dollar has refused to disclose his salary and Creflo Dollar Ministries received a grade of "F" for financial transparency by the organization MinistryWatch.
Originally posted by Hefficide
Thinking of WCI as a "church" is a bit misleading. It has stadium seating, has over 30,000 members, and is run by this guy:
Dollar is known for his controversial teachings of prosperity theology.[9] He has been criticized for his lavish lifestyle as he owns two Rolls-Royces, a private jet, a million dollar home in Atlanta, and a $2.5m home in Manhattan,[9] which he sold for $3.75m in 2012.[13] Dollar has refused to disclose his salary and Creflo Dollar Ministries received a grade of "F" for financial transparency by the organization MinistryWatch.
Creflo Dollar
It's a massive, massive money machine.
~Heffedit on 10/24/12 by Hefficide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hefficide
Thinking of WCI as a "church" is a bit misleading. It has stadium seating, has over 30,000 members, and is run by this guy:
Dollar is known for his controversial teachings of prosperity theology.[9] He has been criticized for his lavish lifestyle as he owns two Rolls-Royces, a private jet, a million dollar home in Atlanta, and a $2.5m home in Manhattan,[9] which he sold for $3.75m in 2012.[13] Dollar has refused to disclose his salary and Creflo Dollar Ministries received a grade of "F" for financial transparency by the organization MinistryWatch.
Creflo Dollar
It's a massive, massive money machine.
~Heffedit on 10/24/12 by Hefficide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Sissel
Originally posted by ubeenhad
If your scared mofo go to church.
wait.
Doesn't work anymore.
Seriously..even the last bastion of safety, isn't safe anymore!
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Hey Heff.......Ive got a million dollar idea if you want to go in on it with me........how do you feel about large crowds and donning a white collar?
Originally posted by AGWskeptic
This is far from the first church shooting.
Originally posted by Sissel
The frequency of these types of shootings outside of something like a battle on the boarder with drugs lords is ridiculous.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
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Your chance of dying in a shooting is like 0.000003%. link
Originally posted by Sissel
Originally posted by AGWskeptic
This is far from the first church shooting.
Guess what? I realize that. The point of this thread was that two major shootings in the lives of people who do ordinary things in the last week. Like go to a spa, or, church.
The frequency of these types of shootings outside of something like a battle on the boarder with drugs lords is ridiculous.
Originally posted by AGWskeptic
You're trying to coorelate guns as the cause.
If not you need to change the wording, because thats how it looks.
If you want something to blame, blame poverty.
Look at the stats posted up the page, when times are good there are fewer shootings.
Maybe we should outlaw poverty.
Originally posted by Sissel
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Hey Heff.......Ive got a million dollar idea if you want to go in on it with me........how do you feel about large crowds and donning a white collar?
The church of Hefficide? LOL!
Hey, this really isn't about religion, so what's your point?
Yep, I am a church goer. I love my church, so is that a reason to shoot me? One can only take you comment as a justifiable reason for thinking this crime was okay.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Really? Thats the only way to take it? That really does explain your stance on gun control and this whole issue.....
Maybe you should expand your mind some more.......
It was a jab at a massively large church being run by a man who cares about nothing but money, and what a lucrative business Idea it was.......
Nice try to pigeon hole me into some kind of religion hating man of violence tho........