HOLY COW! Findings in Quantum Biology Proves Existence of IMMATERIAL SOUL!

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

We are not victims of reality. We are creators of it. Reality is relative to each and everyone of us. The best you can see in the world is created by you and the worst you see in the world is created by you. They are manifestations of our own personal psyche and the ying and yang of the mind. The universe is a mirror and reflects your mind upon it...

No we all live in the same collapse probability well all see the same thing that was created long before we got here . We all recognize the color of the sky as blue and the grass as green the amazing deep field photos of billions of galaxies. We do not create our reality . The only thing we can create is how we react to this reality in a wave of endless probabilities .

reply to post by freedomSlave


Some see the sky as drab because there is no thought association - concept for the color blue. Nice try though...

Schrodinger's "What is Life?" is the only literature on quantum biology worth reading at this point, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Scouser640
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

I've had similar experiences. The first time was when I blew the Kundalini gasket and since then it has happened several times - more frequently recently. For me, the experiences don't last long - in this concept of time - but sometimes the experiences seemed to encompass a different time scale, and enormouse spans of 'time' pass. It's certainly hard to describe and isn't spoken of to those 'locked in' to this reality. But to those few I have mentioned it to - through my untuition that they would get it - it seems that this kind of thing isn't as unusual or rare as I first thought.

I've experienced something similar to that as well. There's almost like a magical boundary between science and reality.

reply to post by Ajax84

Ya this whole reality is fake, I suppose there is a reason why were all here, and there is a reason why I am here. And those reasons are.....those reasons are.

I think we all just suck at imagining anything better and so were stuck in this sucky world of our sucky making. I need to get out of here, the door is always ever so slightly ever beyond my reach, and so got to start making some better games then this zero sum game.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Ajax84

 

Ya this whole reality is fake, I suppose there is a reason why were all here, and there is a reason why I am here. And those reasons are.....those reasons are.

I think we all just suck at imagining anything better and so were stuck in this sucky world of our sucky making. I need to get out of here, the door is always ever so slightly ever beyond my reach, and so got to start making some better games then this zero sum game.

You are a marvelous being, who has willingly agreed to cast away the knowledge of his power and forget entirely who he is, in order to have an adventurous existence as a manifested form on Earth. Apparently, you're not too happy about this decision.

reply to post by johngrissom


People like me? You mean informed on a portion of the subject matter of a thread in the science forum?

I was only using the necessary terminology to describe what I believe was stated by the video in the OP. It is about quantum mechanics, and collapsing waveform functions in spacetime to observe everyday life. I was only using the terminology necessary to describe this phenomena and asking relevant questions about specific points in the OPs video.

Also I rarely talk to phage, or evven see him in a thread I am in on the science forums. BTW, does he think he is a God? He is usually very precise and accurate in his posts, not nearly God like IMHO, but good at. What he does, as I have observed yes.

Besides, the net is used primarily for information sharing and aquisition, unless you count pron, then it is only used for porn, with exception of 2% of the total usage for above mentioned use.

Originally posted by 0mage
oh how shocking! i just might have a heart attack







or not lmao

edit on 17-10-2012 by 0mage because: (no reason given)

This post should be deleted.

Thank you for sharing this information. Hopefully it will help the process of evolution, which is, inevitable.

And, watch Spirit Science on youtube, it is a very intrigueing video

reply to post by freedomSlave

No we all live in the same collapse probability well all see the same thing that was created long before we got here . We all recognize the color of the sky as blue and the grass as green the amazing deep field photos of billions of galaxies. We do not create our reality

and where does this colour blue exist. If I look at a blue flower.. It will look blue to me. If a bee flies over and looks at it he may see different colours and patterns. So no the colour of the sky is not blue. Colour like all sensation exists in the eye of the beholder...

Quantum physics and the old masters all the same thing. We do create reality. Matter does not exist unless you are there to observe it. If you disagree. Prove me wrong.

looks good to me, confirms what I've known all along.

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by freedomSlave

 

. So no the colour of the sky is not blue. Colour like all sensation exists in the eye of the beholder...

Quantum physics and the old masters all the same thing. We do create reality. Matter does not exist unless you are there to observe it. If you disagree. Prove me wrong.

LOL ok Could one imagine how confusing traffic lights would be if everyone who looked at the same color saw different one . I could pinch a billion people I am pretty sure they would feel the same sensation .

Poor Color Vision and Animals Dogs, cats, mice, rats and rabbits have very poor color vision. In fact, they see mostly greys and some blues and yellows.

Even they may not see a red rose as red it is still red . and you can argue that till you are blue in the face , your face would still look blue to any person

Good Color Vision and Animals Some animals do have good color vision. Monkeys, ground squirrels, birds, insects, and many fish can see a fairly good range of color. In some cases it's not as good as what we humans see - but it's much better than cats and dogs.

Bees and butterflies can see colors that we can't see. Their range of color vision extends into the ultraviolet. The leaves of the flowers they pollinate have special ultraviolet patterns which guide the insects deep into the flower. Another example is how a diving bird can see under water without goggles ... and you can't.

Also just because we do not see the color it doesn't mean it don't we only can see a certain spectrum

We do create reality. Matter does not exist unless you are there to observe it. If you disagree. Prove me wrong.

Well I die my kids will be here. the oceans will be here the mountain will still be there. The galaxy is how ever billions of years old was here before you were born . Yes all things are connected with entanglement

So if you can create your reality why are you not a rich and famous movie star or something like that . Move a mountain , or walk on water , or make dinner appear out of nothing . Like I said in the previous post we the only thing we create is how we interact with this reality I could pinch you , you could slap me , pinch me back , call the police ect.... If you can create reality shift time so I am not going to be late for work replying to your post

reply to post by optimus primal


While you ARE correct, I only referred to human conciousness in regard to Original Post material. All WFC truly requires is that there be A Concious observer. The mind-screw is never knowing whether or not the video camera picked up anything at all on it's own...it can't be known without being observed.

Hi,

I've been reading this interesting thread and got many sources to analyse.

I would only want to share with you this 2 trailers that are also related to this topic:

Quantum Activist - by amit goswami (quantum physicist)





Living Matrix



And of course... many of you already know...
Spirit Science series
What the bleep do we know
'___' - the spirit molecule

and of course, many "Through the Wormhole" episodes talk about this non-local conscience

reply to post by quelmarth


There is no particular drug that is a "spirit molecule". If you want a spirit molecule, look to the most base of subatomic particles. That's a good place to begin. Although the forces that bind those particles together is also a very good topic for study.

Gullible people buy into a whole lot of big words that they don't really have knowledge on.

It's called arrogance, and ignorance. Wanting to be above people, while claiming to be spiritual.

Another way of understanding this is: youthful naivety.

It's fun while it lasts.. . kinda.

Glad I'm not buying into any of that hooey any more.

So if the WFC can only be 'known' through conscious observation, would it still 'exist' if there were no such observation? If so, how? and if not, how is it possible that it can be interracted with? Just thinking out loud here.

Originally posted by starsyren
reply to post by optimus primal

 

While you ARE correct, I only referred to human conciousness in regard to Original Post material. All WFC truly requires is that there be A Concious observer. The mind-screw is never knowing whether or not the video camera picked up anything at all on it's own...it can't be known without being observed.

except, as i said, inanimate objects can serve as the observer for the observer effect. no consciousness necessary.

As an example:

To demonstrate this, Weizmann Institute researchers built a tiny device measuring less than one micron in size, which had a barrier with two openings. They then sent a current of electrons towards the barrier. The "observer" in this experiment wasn't human. Institute scientists used for this purpose a tiny but sophisticated electronic detector that can spot passing electrons. The quantum "observer's" capacity to detect electrons could be altered by changing its electrical conductivity, or the strength of the current passing through it.

Apart from "observing," or detecting, the electrons, the detector had no effect on the current. Yet the scientists found that the very presence of the detector-"observer" near one of the openings caused changes in the interference pattern of the electron waves passing through the openings of the barrier. In fact, this effect was dependent on the "amount" of the observation: when the "observer's" capacity to detect electrons increased, in other words, when the level of the observation went up, the interference weakened; in contrast, when its capacity to detect electrons was reduced, in other words, when the observation slackened, the interference increased.

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Originally posted by Scouser640
So if the WFC can only be 'known' through conscious observation, would it still 'exist' if there were no such observation? If so, how? and if not, how is it possible that it can be interracted with? Just thinking out loud here.

It doesn't require "conscious" observation. Other particles can act as the observer, for the observer effect. The new age market continually misses this fact, instead claiming only Human Consciousness can act as the observer because then they can claim you personally create reality, which meshes with their new age paradigm to sell you books.

reply to post by freedomSlave

LOL ok Could one imagine how confusing traffic lights would be if everyone who looked at the same color saw different one . I could pinch a billion people I am pretty sure they would feel the same sensation .

We understand that space time is relative. That the movement of an object changes its space time.We can understand that time is relative. Can you give me one good reason why reality is not relative too.

The world of quantum physics has broken down our model of reality. The Cartesian one in which we get taught we are machines and the universe is a machine around us. In the neo physics . We the observer effect the subject. The process of measuring reality around us brings it into a state of being that we can observe. The act of observation creates reality. Matter does not exist unless it is being observed. Which means the universe did not exist until conscious observes it.

There was once a time that this only applied to the universe on a quantum level. Recently however marco quantum entanglement has been achieved. Two visible diamonds where entangled. When they hit one with light the other diamond vibrates.. Recent advancements indicate that observing dark matter might affect the age of the universe. The act of observation affecting the universe in time. Look at the recent advancements in teleportation Through the means of entanglement. Every point in the universe is linked to every other point. Mater and time and in a state of entanglement.

When you break it down the profound view you end up with is that the universe is a construct of the mind. If you want to reach the end of the universe reach the end of your mind. We are not by products of the universe we are the universe. Certainly there is no scientific experiment that proves to date that objective science is not a phenomena of the mind. You cannot scientifically prove that an external reality exists.

Well I die my kids will be here. the oceans will be here the mountain will still be there. The galaxy is how ever billions of years old was here before you were born . Yes all things are connected with entanglement

How do we know that, You have built of world based on words and concepts and you choose to call that reality. It is not reality. We create a model of the universe and consider that to be the universe itself. It is a model made out of abstract ideas. It is not reality. Why do you trust with iron judgement that this is the case. In reality you do not know it to be the case...

Originally posted by starsyren
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

He's referring to Wave Function Collapse, a concept in Quantum Physics in which all possibilities exist all together, smeared out over time. It's human conciousness that "collapses" all of those possibilities into one singular thing, event, or reality.

...basically, the brain does not create conciousness. Conciousness creates the brain.

edit on 17-10-2012 by starsyren because: Clarification

"basically, the brain does not create conciousness. Conciousness creates the brain"

That is why the transition between sleep and being awake are so important. Just when you wake up and if you wake up quick enough, some people can actually see into the spirit world. Because when in their sleep state, It is their consciousness that is aware and their brain is not in the way forcing you to see only current earth life.,