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reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 10:27 PM by Tw0Sides
reply to post by SLAYER69


Aww Slayer , your a peach.

You can't see the propaganda , when your a part of it.

Let's look at a few realities.

Outside of the US borders, which country has the most US Warships parked off its borders.

In the recent GOP Nomination runoff, which country was openly discussed with regards to timeline to attack.

But ya Slayer, the US and Israel are the victims.


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 10:34 PM by wildtimes
reply to post by petertheskinny

you people are deceived into wars and self destruction, most of you will understand when its too late.

There happen to be some of us who are NOT deceived, and want to STOP the wars and self-destruction,

and calling us "you people" is quite, well, off-putting. Maybe you don't realize that, if you're not American. "You people"?
"You people". A pejorative opening to ANY statement.

What about those of us who want to understand NOW????

Please stop the hate.


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 11:12 PM by nwtrucker
reply to post by SLAYER69


I see no reason to base a relationship on trust with countries that make it illegal to enter Mecca and Medina if your not Muslin. I see no reason to be required to "negotiate" with people that make it a capital offense to convert to Christianity. That tear down statues to early religions. That almost on mass, right across the Muslin world,Shia or Sunni that want to wipe out the jewish religion.

To buy rhetoric that Iran is a "peaceful nation" or look at it from their perspective as their missle development continues to match their rhetoric.

I don't like their religion. I don't want their religion's morals and treatment of their women. I don't want their laws, or their Imams telling us who is good or bad, who should live or who should die in yet another religious war.

I prefer beer, not goat's milk. Football,not falconry.

I wouldn't lose five minutes sleep if Israel hits Iran.

I would prefer a peaceful solution, but am alright if it comes down to a scrap. I'm not saying my culture or religion is any better than theirs, but I prefer mine and will fight to keep it.

So will many others.......


reply posted on 18-8-2012 @ 11:12 PM by wildtimes
reply to post by pacifier2012

Remember that peace needs enforcing. And if someone threatens us disrupt that peace we have by attacking us, we go to war.

Just the same as we lock up someone who threatens us or assaults us, within our legal system. We incarcerate them so they cannot continue to do it.

In an international sense, if there is a potential aggressor or an actual aggressor, we need to be prepared to defend or go to war to ensure they don't harm our way of life. All this talk of peace is in reality... idealistic claptrap.

The only way you can have worldwide peace is if there is one person or nation in complete domination or control who all others cannot stand up to or would dare challenge your ideals.

Excuse me....who is "we", please? What is "our way of life"? Are you sure "your way of life" doesn't need to be changed? Is everyone in "your group" fed, housed, clothed, educated, and free?

Who do you count as "us"?

And how is peace "idealistic claptrap"?

Wow. Got hostility?
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