I can add to infinity

reply to post by proob4


That's because an apple is physical. An idea, a concept, is much easier to divide infinitely...because if you get to the point you can go no farther, you just make up something, assign the required value, and keep going.

There is definitely something to that. I can see it haha.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by randyvs

 

Meaning what, exactly?

Contrast - Multiplicity of notions.

Contrast can be a very vague word sometimes. So I see why you ask.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Numbers come from axioms of mathematics which are the initial rules of all mathematics. This produces the number system. Since numbers come from the axioms of mathematics you can't prove that numbers exist.

Infinity is not a number (therefore it cannot exist as such) but an abstract concept.

infinity + 1 = infinity
infinity - infinity does not equal 0
infinity * 0 does not exist
infinity cannot be proven

I hope this makes sense.

reply to post by eggbert


Infinity is the multiplicity of notions or the stupidity of man. Imagine talking some bubble gum from your mouth and stretching in two different directions forever.

reply to post by proob4


Well you can actually keep dividing once you are at the atomic level. Ever heard of a quark? I wouldn't be surprised if as science gets more and more advanced there are even smaller elements than quarks. However this is the topic of a different debate.

Let's go back to your example of dividing 1 inch by half over and over again. This still helps to prove my example in that you can keep dividing it in half, yet it will never be a measurement equal to 0. It will always be a distance greater than 0. Hence infinity cannot equal 0.

Another example of this could be this thread. It could on forever do to the multiplicity of notions or the stupidity of man.

That's what I mean exactly.

reply to post by randyvs


That's really an oversimplified way of describing it...

reply to post by randyvs


If you don't enjoy this discussion, or feel compelled to degrade the quality of its progress, either contribute or find another thread.

It's not that hard.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by spy66

 

I don't really understand the last part. Can you clarify? How does something expand but become smaller? That doesn't make sense to me.

edit on 14-8-2012 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)

Confused here too. What's being added and/or subtracted? Numbers mean nothing if they don't represent something. So, is it 'time' that's being added and/or subtracted? Is it the distance of the universe? What?

reply to post by randyvs


This thread is for the purpose of discussion and to get people thinking. If you believe it is 'stupid' then that is your OPINION and are more than welcome to leave. You have yet to add anything to the discussion.

reply to post by randyvs


This thread is for the purpose of discussion and to get people thinking. If you believe it is 'stupid' then that is your OPINION and are more than welcome to leave. You have yet to add anything to the discussion.

reply to post by jiggerj


Well take .000001. You can keep adding 0's in front of the 1 forever, therefore making the length of the number expand forever however at the same time the value of the number is getting smaller forever.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Ok so infinity is only conceptual and not physical? Could this be how there are other dimentions?

reply to post by Krazysh0t


Yes I definately agree with you. Lets just say we had a hypothetical super computer dividing a inch in half constantly. At what point after several trillions and trillions of divisions would we arrive at a consitant number that was at the end of all the zeros behind the decimal point? Would that indeed be a constant or still infinity?

Hello everyone, I joined just because of this post!

In mathematics the null set (collection of nothing) has been used to create our number system from first principles.

null set = 0

null set + null set = 1

null set + null set + null set = 2 ...... so on (The book "Goedel, Escher, Bach" gives a good overview of this in several hundred pages.)

The null set includes itself. Now applied to the universe everything should total to zero, meaning:

All matter is balanced by antimatter, all positive electric charge balanced by negative, every photon balanced by another photon of the exact same frequency but moving in the opposite direction.

Even though it sums up to zero, it still contains infinite space, time, and detail.

While this approach has no contradictions, it is hard to grasp.

On a side note and staying on topic with infinity. I allways found this photo awesome!

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by randyvs

 

If you don't enjoy this discussion, or feel compelled to degrade the quality of its progress, either contribute or find another thread.

It's not that hard.

What the hell are you talking about ?

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

This thread is for the purpose of discussion and to get people thinking. If you believe it is 'stupid' then that is your OPINION and are more than welcome to leave. You have yet to add anything to the discussion.

I think you two are letting guilt get to ya. You have no control over what I post or where and I'm perfectly on-topic so what's the problem ?

reply to post by randyvs


Probably "denying his ignorance"? Or has something fantastic to say but cannot.