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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by 0mage
1+(-1)=0
1-1=0
I'm not sure where you get your math from. Your comment about 0 being a gateway is interesting though.
Originally posted by Xertious
Don't get what that has to do with infinity. Also, don't get what saltwater has to do with positive and negative.
Also also, you don't have salt and water anymore, you have a mixture of the two. You would need to go through some process to get them to be salt and water again.
Also, in chemistry isn't always about balance, unstable isotopes are a natural occurence and are used in chemistry.edit on 15-8-2012 by Xertious because: added last bit
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by 0mage
But saying that the circumference of a circle with a radius of 3 meters is 6Pi IS a number. 6 * Pi represents a number that I cannot express on a piece of paper. Just because it isn't composed of numerical values doesn't make it any less of a real number. This is the basics of algebra. It is no different than saying that X = 2 + 3 * 8. Sure I could write 26, but I could also write X or even 2 + 3 * 8 to represent 26. They are all the same thing. With 6 * Pi, I cannot represent that as a numerical value, so you have to settle for it remaining as a mathematical expression of multiplication. I can tell you that 6Pi is close to 18.84, but like we previously stated that isn't the real answer.
I'm not sure where to begin on the rest of your post, you seem to be suggesting that math is the work of the devil. Do you not want to understand our world and the universe we reside in? To me that is the silliest thing I've ever read. I feel like I'm reading church doctrine from the dark ages. Math isn't evil. Math isn't good. Math just is. You put your numbers into the expression and you get an answer. You keep bringing up banks and the interest thing. Of course you aren't going to receive the same amount of interest from the bank by lending them money, banks are in it to make money. If everything was even, they'd go out of business because they wouldn't be able to pay their overhead. Again this has nothing to do with math, it is just the people in charge deciding what to do with the numbers.
Since you want to talk religious overtones, lets use this example: Someone paints a pentagram on the floor of some abandoned building to perform a satanic ritual. Do you say that the paint is evil? No it was just the tool used to create the evil.
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by 0mage
You are right about the computer thing, but there is more than one definition of a circle. I could just as easily define a circle with circumference 6Pi as an infinite amount of vectors going in all directions with magnitude of 3 meters originating at 1 point. However I will concede that a computer can only approximate this as well, since it could never draw an infinite amount of vectors (infinite loop) as well as never being able to draw a circle with exact circumference of 6Pi. This isn't a failing of math though, its a failing of the technology. The technology is too limited to correctly draw it. This doesn't mean that we can't utilize infinity in our calculations.
I don't want to leave this "box" that you suggest called math. It defines everything. If something is unexplained, it just means we haven't come up with the correct mathematical formulas/concepts to explain it. Math and as an extension science is always changing and being added to as we discover new things. Math is beautiful in this regard. If I go around saying that 1 + 1 = 3 then what does 2 + 2 equal? How about 1 - 1 for that matter? I feel that there are things beyond our understanding spiritually, but even those can eventually be explained using math and physical laws. For example, a ghost may just be an entity existing in a higher dimension then we do and since we are at the lower end, we don't experience the total thing. God may even be the same thing.edit on 15-8-2012 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)
Many examples of simple biocomputers have been designed, but the capabilities of these biocomputers are still largely premature in comparison to commercially available non-bio computers. However, there is definitely great potential in the capabilities that biocomputers may one day acquire. Evidence of the true potential of the computing capabilities of biocomputers exists in the most powerful, complex computational machine known to currently exist: the biocomputer that is the human brain. Certainly, there is plenty of room to improve in the realm of biocomputer computational ability; one may reasonably expect the science of biocomputers to advance greatly in the years to come.
Originally posted by Xertious
Don't get what that has to do with infinity. Also, don't get what saltwater has to do with positive and negative.
Also also, you don't have salt and water anymore, you have a mixture of the two. You would need to go through some process to get them to be salt and water again.
Also, in chemistry isn't always about balance, unstable isotopes are a natural occurence and are used in chemistry.edit on 15-8-2012 by Xertious because: added last bit
Originally posted by mbkennel
People here seem to be unaware of the actual progress which has been made by mathematics in classifying various forms of "infinites" and even construction operations which can occur on them.
en.wikipedia.org...
Much of this math started with Georg Cantor in the late 19th century. It would be more profitable for people to learn it (it is not super easy) rather than writing fairly juvenile and unproductively naive nonsense.