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Muppets bash Chick-fil-A over owners faith

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posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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I dare someone to walk into one of their establishments, order something and ask them for a side of marriage equality

Post on youtube, link me to it, make.my.ruddy.year!

Personally im not sure i want private companies to have political beliefs... Shouldn't we leave them for individuals with voting rights?




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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Wrong, you just remember it that way.
Sesame street and in turn the Muppets have always pushed a political agenda of some sort, you just didn't realise it.
It was designed that way, as is all entertainment.
Artists of all stripes push their political agenda in their art...that's the point.
They also in most cases try to make it somewhat ambivilent so as to appeal to as many people as possible...you still have to eat.
The only difference now is, you are more mature so you notice it more...
Go back and watch some old episodes of either show.
You might be surprised at what you didn't see the first time, but it influenced you none the less.

And I would hardly characterise it as viscious attack....more like a statement of smug disapproval.
Much like Chic-A_Fil's statement against Gay marriage...mostly grandstanding to appeal to their largest fan bases.
Bottom line: We believe what you do, you are one of us, give us your money, we deserve it more....BOTH of them.


edit on 24-7-2012 by ViktorHaze because: additional thought...



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by ViktorHaze
reply to post by Rockstrongo37
 

Wrong, you just remember it that way.
Sesame street and in turn the Muppets have always pushed a political agenda of some sort, you just didn't realise it.
It was designed that way, as is all entertainment.
Artists of all stripes push their political agenda in their art...that's the point.
They also in most cases try to make it somewhat ambivilent so as to appeal to as many people as possible...you still have to eat.
The only difference now is, you are more mature so you notice it more...
Go back and watch some old episodes of either show.
You might be surprised at what you didn't see the first time, but it influenced you none the less.




Yeah, Sesame Street was notorious for pushing the acceptance of beastality

/Sarcasm



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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I know your correct about their addenda and the fact that perhaps it was more hidden in the past...but that just my point it was hidden...now it's more in your face and blatant. There was once a restraint in Hollywood that isn't there anymore, there was a concern over being too offensive...now Henson's company receives government grants to produce much of their material, and they are clearly more empowered to be obvious about their points of view.

My point is simply that the Muppets needs to be out of the political spectrum...and simply stay entertaining.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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More like Monsteriality (or whatever you would call that..).
But really...they have been pushing, albeit in context with the social mores of the time, things like gay men living together since it's inception.
Bert and ernie come to mind...as well as multiculturalism and a plethora of other Liberal socialist ideas.
I'm not criticising them for it, it's just a fact.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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I think that the reason for that is because society in general is more open about it's politics than in the past.
When i was a kid in the 70's, adults kept that stuff to themselves.
We don't do that now a day, and Hollywood reflects that..
I don't believe that Hollywood influences society anymore than society influences it.
It is a mutual thing where one feeds off of the other in a game of one-up-manship, so to speak.
Hollywood doesn't force views on us, they take the societal norm and play it back to us in an enhanced and accelerated form, and we as a society tend to adopt that acceleration.
This cycle gets repeated, and you suddenly have an exponential rate of societal evolution fueled by itself.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by ViktorHaze
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So basically, you are bent out of shape because an independent company that doesn't support YOUR point of view, has come out and said they don't support a different independent company that is aligned with YOUR point of view, correct?
Isn't it funny (not funny Ha ha...) that people with your point of view always seem to forget Mathew 7:3-5?
Perhaps a little Luke 4:23 might do you some good...
And no, I'm not even a little religious, but there are many good parables in your Big Book of Desert Fairytales...
Shame most of those that do puport to follow it, so quickly push it aside when it suits them...


I'm not bent out of shape over it, sorry if you read more into it than there was. I could care less as long as people are happy. I have no "view". People are so sensitive any more.

I'm tired of the MSM making a big deal over something like this, instead of focusing on the issues at hand that concerns our country [if you read at the bottom of the post you'll see where I stated this].

This is election year so we need to focus on the economy, high unemployment, taxes, small business, etc....

It's 2 business's battling out their difference in opinions. Each has there right to believe the way they want to & should not be bullied into submission. Neither side is wrong in their beliefs. If that's the way they feel, good for them.

I think that this could have been handled better IMO, the dissolving of their partnership, with out all the hoopla.

It just goes to show, as another poster stated earlier, people in CEO positions need to keep remarks to themselves on touchy subjects such as this because there is always some one listening, ready to grab & run with it.

This thread started off light hearted & friendly but now, it's turned a lot more serious.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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:3 I just had to pop into this thread and say this. Marriage is a religious institution. It is a ceremony that unifies a man and a woman. Originally marriage wasn't all about love. In ancient times and even in other religious cultures today marriage was simply an arranged business transaction to unify prominent family's/bloodlines. It's an religious arrangement basically for woman to pump out babies (reproduction).

My question to people whom are homo-sexual is why signify the love you have with another person through a religious ceremony that rejects your life style? The real issue is civil rights and privileges pertaining to tax code, and other legal matters.

To me it would be simple to force everybody to have a civil union to receive secular benefits like tax right offs and the ability to benefit from your spouses pension or death benefits etc. The marriage ceremony should be something entirely separate and option for religious groups whom take it seriously.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that people have the right to do whatever they want to do it's their business, however the main issue is about RESPECT for someone else's beliefs or cultural practices. I mean most Americans are entitled selfish little brats that think every thing is always about themselves. Would you disrespect Hindu religious practices by going into a Hindu place of worship and consuming a cow... something that would be viewed as disrespectful. Would you go into a temple and have a gay-mitzfa to celebrate someones coming out?

I mean quite frankly Chick-fila has the right to do as they please and believe in what they believe in just as homo-sexuals do. This whole mess is just silly. And technically they aren't discriminating against people. I am pretty sure they will take your money if your gay they can careless... They are simply expressing their religious view points. It's funny, I saw a news report on how Boston refuses to allow Chick-fila in it's state unless they change their views. I thought to myself... So basically Boston is discriminating against the company because of their Christian political views? This whole thing is silly... You can't force a company to change it's political beliefs like you can't force a gay man to like a woman. I mean Chick-fila's profit will not be effected because its primary demographic supports their political views or simply loves their chicken.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Niether are particularly right. There is no real guidance for a Christian marriage for same sex partners dealt with in the bible, so the Cathy's should have no imput there, and the same goes for the Hensons, they can only allude to a civil marriage, which is a legal issue, and not necessarily an issue of procreation, which is the intended emphasis, even the rationale in a Christian marriage, and that cannot be argued against, you either agree or you don't.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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: Marriage is a religious institution. It is a ceremony that unifies a man and a woman. Originally marriage wasn't all about love. In ancient times and even in other religious cultures today marriage was simply an arranged business transaction to unify prominent family's/bloodlines. It's an religious arrangement basically for woman to pump out babies (reproduction).


So, the origin of marriage was a "religious business arrangement" meant for women to pump out babies? This is the definition of marriage that so many are fighting to defend?



To me it would be simple to force everybody to have a civil union to receive secular benefits like tax right offs and the ability to benefit from your spouses pension or death benefits etc. The marriage ceremony should be something entirely separate and option for religious groups whom take it seriously.


So, now you're saying that only religious people should be called "married?" Are you saying that atheists don't take their marriages seriously? All marriages should be performed in a church by a minister?



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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Why is it ok for people to talk about their belief of letting gay people get married and they are supported by like everyone but when someone talks about their religious based beliefs they are suddenly a bad person and should be shunned and punished. How is that fair? Its not like the owner of chick-fil-a is boycotting gay marriage ceremonies or saying that gays must die and how they arent going to heaven. He just said that he believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Whatever, he is very entitled to his opinion and nobody should give this man crap for that. I believe that this type of thing is making people less tolerant of homosexuals because people are being forced to be ok with gay marriage and i think it is just causing a lot of bad feelings toward one another. Just let people have their own opinions because thats all it was, an opinion.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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The Satanic Symbolism of Sesame Street:




posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
Chick-fil-a is a privately owned company and can do what it wants. The muppets are privately owned and can do what they want too. It's a win/win scenario.


And, since I can do what I want, I won't be giving any of my business to Christ-fil-a.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by daynight42
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Not sure about the Muppet thing, so I won't comment on that. It seems like the Muppets are stepping our their boundaries. I mean, why is a cartoon crew advocating political issues of any kind in the first place?

I'm ignostic (with an i), but I still eat at Chick Fil A. I find their employees to be very polite, and I enjoy eating there when I do. They might play some religious music sometimes, here and there, but it's not loud and not like it's something you have to listen to. You can eat in your car or go through the drive through if you don't like it. It's not like they're got crosses all over the walls inside. (That would be too much for me.)

Anyway, the bigger issue I have with Chick Fil A is how they pride themselves on saving cows. Well, hello, did you think of all the chickens you kill to serve your customers? Are cows worth more than chickens? Not at all. It's just strange to me that they would put the cow on a pedestal while they are responsible for the deaths of so many chickens. It's just strange. This isn't India we're talking about.


I dont really think they are trying to be like animal rights activists or anything, i think its just supposed to be a funny way to sell their product lol. Ya know, like the cow is saying "dont eat me, go eat some chicken", its just supposed to be funny. They arent holding cows on a pedestal



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by michaelknives52

My question to people whom are homo-sexual is why signify the love you have with another person through a religious ceremony that rejects your life style?


I just like to piss Xristians off. Others, who knows.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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I won't boycott Chick Fil-A because of their position. I don't care about the gay thing one way or the other.

I might not invite Kermit over for Thanksgiving this year unless pork is being served.

I will boycott Age of Dragons. I hate that damned roll over pop up.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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When people invest excessive energy in symbolic gestures, irritation and much sweaty discontent result. Important issues such as the economy and realpolitik are ignored in favor of identity issues, as pointed out above. People on both sides get worked up into a lather, nobody changes anyone's mind. Many cords on many necks pop outwards in vexation, bloodpressure rises. What a waste of sound and fury.

And that's all I have to say about that. Mellow out, its a long hot summer.


edit on 7/24/2012 by silent thunder because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:38 PM
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The problem for me is that many companies have announced that they DO support gay marriage, and as a result of this, many christians boycott these companies. But, now chick-fil-a is being boycotted for supporting gay marriage and the christians don't think that it is fair.

there's the conservative double standard for you....



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Well I don't support organized boycotts of ANY sort. A personal choice is fine.

I view all organized boycotts as trying to take my choice away, and as an adult I have every right to make my own choices. I'm incredibly frustrated with too many people telling me what I can and can't do.

That seems to be an unpopular view.



posted on Jul, 24 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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So now Chick Fil A is claiming the Muppet toys were voluntarily recalled by the Henson company because they are defective.

JUST SO HAPPENS - - - I listen to Talk Radio - - - and a spokesman for Henson came on about 15 minutes ago stating this was a flat out blatant lie.

Gotta love those Extremist Christians - - - they are just so so so Christian.


But today some Chick-fil-A locations have been caught posting signs claiming the toys have disappeared because they were "voluntarily recalled" and are "a possible safety issue." Photos of the signs have appeared online. www.advocate.com...



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