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Originally posted by NihilistSanta
reply to post by jhill76
I guess I wished to know your intent because If you believed you would not question it. If you believe in Christ and his message of salvation then I would think you would want to bring others to that understanding but I dont think that will happen if you come in with conjecture. Why not stick with what works? If you are a Christian and I see you quote the bible so I am assuming you are then dont you think that the lords words are sufficient? Instead you imply that what the Lord says is not what he meant. Seems like you are trying to build an argument with a bad foundation.
Originally posted by stupid girl
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I always feel like I need to put on some Pink Floyd and light some incense when I read your posts.
I think I'll just go make some coffee and read this one again
Originally posted by stupid girl
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I always feel like I need to put on some Pink Floyd and light some incense when I read your posts.
I think I'll just go make some coffee and read this one again
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by NihilistSanta
"The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." —John 6:29
"He who rejects me rejects him who sent me."
—Luke 10:16
"If a man is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."
—John 7:37
"Whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall loose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day."
—John 6:37-39
Does this state you must accept him as Savior or perish? I am asking, can you do good (like Jesus outlined in his speech), without worshiping Jesus, but worship or believe in Father and still gain access to heaven? None of those scriptures address what I have asked. If it did, this thread would not have gotten past the first page.
Originally posted by NihilistSanta
The Bible is not a Jesus buffet where you can come in and say "I think ill have a helping of mercy with a side of grace. Give me some extra salvation while you are at it. Go easy on the word. Oh and hold the judgement it doesn't agree with my stomach."
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Thanks for caring... I guess according to you I will be in eternal hell while you eat golden bread in Heaven looking down upon me saying I told you so....
Do you know the Bibles history?
Do you know how all this literature was passed down to become the Bible?
Do you know who All wrote and chose its content?
Do you know your own hearts intent on saving others while you yourself are above the ones who do not believe as you?
Cherry picking goes on by not you... Just others?
Glad you are saved brother, maybe one day I will become as good as you.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Thanks for caring... I guess according to you I will be in eternal hell while you eat golden bread in Heaven looking down upon me saying I told you so....
Do you know the Bibles history?
Do you know how all this literature was passed down to become the Bible?
Do you know who All wrote and chose its content?
Do you know your own hearts intent on saving others while you yourself are above the ones who do not believe as you?
Cherry picking goes on by not you... Just others?
Glad you are saved brother, maybe one day I will become as good as you.
Originally posted by NihilistSanta
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Thanks for caring... I guess according to you I will be in eternal hell while you eat golden bread in Heaven looking down upon me saying I told you so....
Do you know the Bibles history?
Do you know how all this literature was passed down to become the Bible?
Do you know who All wrote and chose its content?
Do you know your own hearts intent on saving others while you yourself are above the ones who do not believe as you?
Cherry picking goes on by not you... Just others?
Glad you are saved brother, maybe one day I will become as good as you.
I care because I love the lord and it is the only way I know to show my appreciation to him for all he has blessed me with. I do not assume that the lord will look unfavorably on you or that my actions he is pleased with so please don't make assumptions about what I will be doing in the afterlife. I make no assertions about your final destination I am only going by what the lord has told us (all of us, which is freely available more so than any other source of knowledge on the planet btw)
As to the history of the Bible I am well aware of it however are you aware that if god intends for his word to remain in tact that he can do so?
As to my intent I stated why I care above. I do not look down on you in any way. If you could only know the multitude of sins I have performed in my life you would see that I am in no position to judge others. I can save no one although I am flattered you think so. You are probably better than I but I am not striving to be better than anyone. The lord has humbled me greatly and I wish only to pass on the gifts that he has given to me to others not because I want brownie points but because I am thankful.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by EnochWasRight
" Saved" is not a word I throw around to people as I have no authority to judge another and say if they are or not saved as in the Christian Doctrine context. I for one dont think anyone has the right to say whether or not one is saved and one isnt. The Religious people do enough judging for all of us and that saddens me. For that reason I chose to reply as if Im not good enough because others enjoy putting them self on a pedestal, look down at the other, and say to them they should do this and that ( like them) so they will be " saved". Its just not right.
We are to come here ( Earth), be reborn in water ( mothers womb) and try to Not miss the mark that has been laid out before us. But..... We all fall short and this is what I would consider " sin". Before being reborn we have a goal and whilst here we cannot remember said goal and so we fall short. We will be reborn until we reach our goal. All of this is ... My opinion.
Because of Jesus coming to Earth and setting the record straight with Truth, we are to remember our goal is to follow him and let his light shine through us so the ultimate goal of Heaven on Earth can be had. When this is done we are at that time displaying Gods love to another because at that time we are not falling short. The goal is on its way for achievement. If everyone on Earth was nice and had an intent of love with each word and action ( or at least TRIED) we would have Heaven on Earth right now. However people do not have a loving intent toward another and it comes out big time when you are in threads that discuss opinions and not facts. Each person believes there isnt another way.... Only theirs.
When we do unlawful acts we are going against what Jesus taught. Unlawful act can be applied to anything per observer but judging another is clearly forbidden.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Do you not reads my words? Do you think I do not love the Lord? Lol
I have not been on here judging everyone and their hearts intent.... I dont have tnat right.
Each and every one of us is separate. We will undoubtedly have a difference in opinion as well.
The ones who interpreted the Word also have diffefence in opinion.
Gods word has been tampered with my friend because control, greed, and the like rule this Planet. Look around at the world today. Its insanely chaotic!
This is why we are to seek in private and discern what it was Jesus meant. Translating the Word was not an easy task and the ones who seek the actual true word will discern even more with that knowledge.... Or so I think. Im sure Gods language is not English.... Its just not black and white for me.
I dont think you are above me either, its just the impression you give off in this thread. I was being sarcastic so you could see how it was making me feel. I was hoping your next reply would show more humility, and it did. Everyone needs that humility given, because we are all in this together, looking for answers.
Originally posted by MamaJ
We are to come here ( Earth), be reborn in water ( mothers womb) and try to Not miss the mark that has been laid out before us. But..... We all fall short and this is what I would consider " sin". Before being reborn we have a goal and whilst here we cannot remember said goal and so we fall short. We will be reborn until we reach our goal. All of this is ... My opinion.
Because of Jesus coming to Earth and setting the record straight with Truth, we are to remember our goal is to follow him and let his light shine through us so the ultimate goal of Heaven on Earth can be had. When this is done we are at that time displaying Gods love to another because at that time we are not falling short. The goal is on its way for achievement. If everyone on Earth was nice and had an intent of love with each word and action ( or at least TRIED) we would have Heaven on Earth right now. However people do not have a loving intent toward another and it comes out big time when you are in threads that discuss opinions and not facts. Each person believes there isnt another way.... Only theirs.