Originally posted by jhill76
Is it possible with having a direct relationship with God, or choosing your own way to God, but being good?
edit on 19-7-2012 by jhill76
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God can only be known with a humble heart.
Doing it your own way is not humbleness, it is stubborn and prideful.
And no one is good. All human beings have done and will continue to do something wrong at one time or another.
Even people who may be considered "good", are considered such by the standards of mankind. The standards of which can be radically different from one
culture, race, creed, etc., to another.
I think I'm "good" because I try to do right every day, but a radical Islamist believes that I and my children are infidels, worthy only of
Orthodox Jews believe that I'm a polytheistic heretic.
Wiccans believe that I'm a judgmental, sanctimonious hypocrite.
Atheists believe that I'm a shallow, brainwashed product of my environment.
These are all general observations of my experience as a whole.
And just like in all actuality, I am nothing like the person they stereotype me as, there are also a select few among those beliefs that are not like
their stereotype either.
Therefore, "good" is entirely and completely subjective and there is no universal standard of measurement for "good."
Even if there was, circumstance would be the next obstacle to overcome. Everyone's circumstances are perpetually adapting to every second of their
existence and environment every single day of their lives.
That would mean that the hypothetical measurement of "goodness" would also have to be measured in identical circumstances and environment. And that
So, being "good" is just something that makes us feel better about ourselves until we make the inevitable not "good" decision. Then the cycle will
repeat itself....try to be good....do something mean, selfish or stupid and not good.....try to be good....do something mean, selfish or stupid and
not good...... until we die.
For people who don't believe in God, pondering a deeper meaning and possible solution to that cycle doesn't matter because they don't care one way or
the other. If it doesn't exist, then there's nothing to ponder. However, for some bizarre reason many of them amuse themselves by haunting the
religion forums and harassing those that do...which seems utterly idiotic to me, but hey, whatever.
For all other religions and beliefs, they are left with justifying their particular standard of measurement of "good" and trying to come to some sort
of agreement with all the others.
What is good for a Muslim would have to agree with what is good for a Jew.
What is good for a Hindu would have to agree with what is good with a Buddhist.
Then what the Muslim and Jew agreed upon (not...likely...ever...) would have to be agreed upon by the Hindu and Buddhist (good luck on getting a
Brahmin Hindu to commiserate with an Untouchable caste-level Buddhist).
So, at the end of the day....or millennia....you are still left with the impassable task of reconciling the inherent nature of mankind's proclivity to
"not good" with God's inherent and ineffable "good".
A reconciliation that, to be truly fair and truly just, would have to be equally available to all regardless of time, circumstance, age, culture,
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