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Perhaps because you are obfuscating your intent with contradictory statements or without logic.
Like the statement that some above were sent here to learn as well? I cant argue if you received some kind of secret God decoder ring that only you are privy too but perhaps the burden is on you to show your intent?
Originally posted by NihilistSanta
reply to post by Akragon
Care to point out those needs or desires?
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Well you did not include those reasons because no one knows.
I did not include them, because I have parameters in which I must abide by. Everyone seems to give my intent for me.
Others will determine Your intent as they percieve...
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by akushla99
Others will determine Your intent as they percieve...
It would be ideal if they could just ask and quote why did I say this, than draw assumptions or conclusions of their own. I have a reason for which I do everything.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Perhaps because you are obfuscating your intent with contradictory statements or without logic.
Why does one feel they need to know my intent to respond to the question posed?
Like the statement that some above were sent here to learn as well? I cant argue if you received some kind of secret God decoder ring that only you are privy too but perhaps the burden is on you to show your intent?
This made me smile. When one has information others do not, they always seem to ridicule that person for some odd reason.
Ok this is becoming ridiculous I will just say that if you have to wonder why people question your intent then perhaps you should go back and reread your contradictory statements.
And I am sorry if you feel ridiculed.
Many people have claimed that God told them to do things but the bible tells us to judge a tree by its fruits and your fruit smells rotten. Are you sure this knowledge you claim to possess came from God? The lord does not operate in darkness.
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Ok this is becoming ridiculous I will just say that if you have to wonder why people question your intent then perhaps you should go back and reread your contradictory statements.
Others have stated this before, but can you do a post by post quote on myself, and I will answer each for you. They seem contradictory, because I do not include all of the information that is needed, and you are drawing your own conclusions based upon my limited reply.
And I am sorry if you feel ridiculed.
I hold no emotion to the matter. Simply stating what is known to be true.
Many people have claimed that God told them to do things but the bible tells us to judge a tree by its fruits and your fruit smells rotten. Are you sure this knowledge you claim to possess came from God? The lord does not operate in darkness.
Did I state Father has told me to come onto these boards and post questions? My fruit smells rotten because I am asking questions of others on here? I see.edit on 20-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NihilistSanta
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Perhaps because you are obfuscating your intent with contradictory statements or without logic.
Why does one feel they need to know my intent to respond to the question posed?
Like the statement that some above were sent here to learn as well? I cant argue if you received some kind of secret God decoder ring that only you are privy too but perhaps the burden is on you to show your intent?
This made me smile. When one has information others do not, they always seem to ridicule that person for some odd reason.
Ok this is becoming ridiculous I will just say that if you have to wonder why people question your intent then perhaps you should go back and reread your contradictory statements.
And I am sorry if you feel ridiculed. Many people have claimed that God told them to do things but the bible tells us to judge a tree by its fruits and your fruit smells rotten. Are you sure this knowledge you claim to possess came from God? The lord does not operate in darkness.
I am no expert but you seem to suffer from a pariah complex brought on by your delusions of grandeur. I will pray for you.
God Bless.
As to your contradictions you already stated in a previous post about suffering that your statement appears contradictory because of "parameters" you have not given. Which leaves the reader back at square one as far as contradiction goes.
Your fruit smells funny because you are being vague and evasive about your intent, omission is a factor in dishonesty.
If it is merely as I stated earlier to stir the pot a little and get people thinking that is fine and good but groups of Jewish scholars went down the road of conjecture and that is partially how we ended up with things like the Zohar which while interesting is not foundational to salvation and may well be heretical and thus contradictory to salvation.
Instead you imply that what the Lord says is not what he meant.
If you are a Christian and I see you quote the bible so I am assuming you are then dont you think that the lords words are sufficient?
If you believe in Christ and his message of salvation then I would think you would want to bring others to that understanding but I dont think that will happen if you come in with conjecture.
I guess I wished to know your intent because If you believed you would not question it.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by NihilistSanta
reply to post by Akragon
Care to point out those needs or desires?
Exodus 20:5
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exodus 34:14
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
Deuteronomy 4:24
For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
Joshua 24:19
And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins.
This God needs worship... and gets pissed off if you don't worship it.
edit on 20-7-2012 by Akragon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jhill76
Many are taught that accepting Jesus Christ and accepting him into your life, you will be saved from hell. But, did Brother make this claim? The closest we can come to this is:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Could Jesus have meant, imitate me, be like me, and you can enter heaven? Do you really think people who lived their lives like Brother, but don't accept him as Savior will be sent to eternal damnation?
You have other scriptures that talk about accepting Christ, but did Brother specifically say to do this or perish? Is it possible with having a direct relationship with God, or choosing your own way to God, but being good?edit on 19-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Yes you are correct nowhere in your OP did you at all try to derive meaning that is not there from the words of the lord
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by NihilistSanta
Yes you are correct nowhere in your OP did you at all try to derive meaning that is not there from the words of the lord
Derive meaning? I stated facts from scripture. Can you tell me where Jesus said accept him as savior or perish? If I am wrong, please provide proof of scripture stating what I said is false?
Only use Brothers words, not what others spoke about him.
edit on 20-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
"The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." —John 6:29
"He who rejects me rejects him who sent me."
—Luke 10:16
"If a man is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."
—John 7:37
"Whoever comes to me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall loose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life and I will raise him up at the last day."
—John 6:37-39