Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by adjensen
And don't get me started on the Gnostics, lol.
No? "lol". Why, you have no way to refute it? Christ himself learned from them. Get up to date, you'll learn some new things. Every freaking DAY
there are new hypotheses and discoveries. Get out of the antiquity teachings, and with the modern knowledge of our capabilities.
Christ himself learned from them? How the heck did that work? The Christian Gnostics thought that Christ was an Aeon, here to give THEM the gnosis.
The Gnostics (in general, not just the "Christian" ones,) were a polytheistic and dualistic form of derived neo-Platonism.
Jesus Christ, on the other hand, was a Jew, and never taught anything that was out of line with the foundations of Orthodox Judaism. He was
monotheistic and a non-dualist, so in the incredibly unlikely event that he might have run across some Gnostics, about all that he would have learned
from them is that they taught a world view that was diametrically opposed to his own.
"Get up to date"? I'd suggest that you do, as well, but beginning with history, not imagined realities.
I will give you the same challenge that I give to all "gnostics" -- explain why the Bringer of Gnosis would be born in Israel, an Orthodox Jew,
rather than into a heritage more befitting his role. And then kindly explain why, if he "accidentally" found himself in such as state, he did not
immediately denounce said Judaism and its incompetent and bumbling Demiurge, rather than praising and worshipping him, as he did.
An easy way to tell is whether a church's baptism is accepted by a clearly Christian church, such as the Catholics or Anglicans,
I was baptized, confirmed, and married in the Episcopal church. Good enough? Please don't assume I don't know anything about what I'm talking
Geez, you're pretty touchy. You made a remark that implied that you believe non-Christians are Christians, simply because they profess to following
some of what Christ had to say. By that logic, Muslims are Christians, as are Buddhists and anyone else who follows the Golden Rule. I merely
pointed out that "Christian", for Christians, has a technical and theological meaning, and you can't just apply it as you see fit (not rationally,
at any rate.)
Baptism, confirmation and marriage do not necessarily impart theological knowledge, so I am not sure how you believe them to be germane to the