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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by solongandgoodnight
it may be important to note that this was not "biblical". they were corrupt. that doesn't mean that all christians follow this awful line of thinking.
Correct, it wasn't "Biblical", but at the time many of those vicitmized parishioners didn't KNOW THAT. And yes, you are correct that not all do. But all are equally subject to such corrupted interpretations, in particular those who follow what their leaders say without doing any homework (so to speak).
That's why "critical thinking" is so very important .... in making decisions. Sadly, it is true that not everyone has developed the capacity to do so, nor has the interest in learning to. It makes such a vital difference in quality of life!
it may be important to note that this was not "biblical". they were corrupt. that doesn't mean that all christians follow this awful line of thinking
Some people just don't get the difference between christianity and christendom.
I so hope you are not implying that I'm one of those "people" who don't get the "difference." I myself have said many, many times on these forums that what the man Jesus is said to have taught his followers about how to live -- in humility, kindness, peace, understanding -- to treat others the way you would like to be treated -- is the key. That is what I hold to.
you must have some guilt hidden somewhere to think i was because you took it personally.
My heart aches even today to think of my little ones, who absolutely bonded with me, and who wept when I would leave, until they realized I'd be back. I was beloved by those children, and their parents, and I loved them back.
Why should I allow some "Board of Regents of Behavioral Science Practitioners" or whatever tell me "no, you can't communicate with them once they've left your program. No, you can't go talk to them off the clock. No, you may not accept their gifts of gratitude that they crafted with their own hands for you specifically. No, you can't go to their christenings, or birthday parties, or to their home for celebrations of holidays of any kind at all." Does that make sense to any of you? It doesn't to me.
And you know what their reasons for imposing those brutal restrictions were cloaked in? Wait for it..... "i'ts unethical" I kid you not. I told them to shove it, and left the "professional world," but did not stop working. And never will.
If you were being "unethical", they were just being plain heartless. How are you not to care, and become intertwined with those you choose to help. It would be counterproductive not to stay involved to some point, even after therapy is over.
I'm happy you followed your heart, and walked away. Its so sad it had to come to that.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical
What? What has pantheism to do with anything? I don't worship multiple Gods. I revere the Divine that is in everything and everyone.
There is not one single denomination that I have learned about that supports my personal understanding of the Divine Spirit within. But I know what it tells me, and it doesn't require anything but for me to be loving and to be a help to those in need. Over my lifetime I have done that -- not with money, because I have none -- but with compassion, respect, and dialogue, to partner with those in pain and help them discover how best to overcome their suffering.
I am a change agent. A social worker. And I have been since long, long before I was "granted" that "title" by an academic institution. That said, I refused to get a "license" to practice, because that would put on me too many restraints that don't make sense to me, like not bonding with clients, and cutting them off completely after working alongside them toward their own peace of mind.
How stupid is that? I found it impossible to work with people on a regular basis, in their homes, or in a private conversation, or a group setting if they chose (and those were youths who asked for a group, so I arranged one for them, and got the grant I wrote to do so)...and then WALK AWAY FROM THEM FOREVER when for whatever reason they had "graduated" -- for some of those people, I'd been bonded with them, and their BABIES for, say, a year and a half -- through their triumphs, their confusion, their moves and losses and fears, and when those babies turned 3 years old......I was forbidden to see them any longer. How much pain! How many tears, and years of missing them I've endured since then.
My heart aches even today to think of my little ones, who absolutely bonded with me, and who wept when I would leave, until they realized I'd be back. I was beloved by those children, and their parents, and I loved them back. Why should I allow some "Board of Regents of Behavioral Science Practitioners" or whatever tell me "no, you can't communicate with them once they've left your program. No, you can't go talk to them off the clock. No, you may not accept their gifts of gratitude that they crafted with their own hands for you specifically. No, you can't go to their christenings, or birthday parties, or to their home for celebrations of holidays of any kind at all."
Does that make sense to any of you? It doesn't to me. And you know what their reasons for imposing those brutal restrictions were cloaked in?
Wait for it.....
"i'ts unethical"
I kid you not. I told them to shove it, and left the "professional world," but did not stop working. And never will.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Oh, okay. Got it. My bad. I'm feeling rather defensive today, obviously. There's been a lot of "misunderstanding" of people's intentions lately....just trying to make myself clear.
Carry on...
There is not one single denomination that I have learned about that supports my personal understanding of the Divine Spirit within. But I know what it tells me, and it doesn't require anything but for me to be loving and to be a help to those in need. Over my lifetime I have done that -- not with money, because I have none -- but with compassion, respect, and dialogue, to partner with those in pain and help them discover how best to overcome their suffering.
Pantheism comes from PAN "all" and THEOS "god" in Greek meaning "all/everything is god, part of god".
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by NOTurTypical
What? What has pantheism to do with anything? I don't worship multiple Gods. I revere the Divine that is in everything and everyone.
I didnt say Polytheism, I said PANtheism. Polytheism is the belief there are multiple gods.
Pantheism ~ Plato
Pantheism comes from PAN "all" and THEOS "god" in Greek meaning "all/everything is god, part of god".
but today's landscape is quite different.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
but today's landscape is quite different.
Yep. Not a single man of cloth striving to cast down the powers that have us under its thumb. We want to fight the war, but you believe we don't have to.
We can't afford that kind of faith. Plain and simple. Sure, you might be right...but what if you're wrong?