I was asked this by a friend who is a member, and thought it a good question to ask of the devout membership for an answer. Here goes:

As an Internet Preacher, we are aware your mission is to gain converts, that much is a given. What I want to ask is, how many of the ATS membership have you been able to "Save?" How many have recanted their ways and old religions, and fully embraced Christianity because of you?

Please feel free to crow here.

I hate religion as much as the next guy, but subliminally bashing it isn't really right in my book.
I mean... One quick skim of your OP, along with looking at whats in your signature, I'd say you
have a serious problem with religion. Christianity to be more specific.

Seriously, Christians don't have the ability to save anyone. That position is already taken.

I couldn't leave the first part of this reply on here autowrench. I couldn't live with myself. Take care, and I wish you the best...

Nice hateful answers. I love you all. But seriously, have you converted anyone from ATS, or have you all failed in this endeavour? It is a simple question, if one of you has had success, please, let me know.
And those links in my sig are to make you think, and it did make you think, you just took it to a dark place. Try reading them before you are so quick to judge.

When scattering seeds some fall in fertile soil and some fall upon stony ground. Not all of this seed will produce fruit....sometimes it takes decades....some will never....but the seed was spread.

I'm not an internet preacher but I have faith and have shared my views in numerous threads.

If you want to know why I am a Christian though, the best answer I can give you for that is that my life has led me in that direction. I don't attend Church, nor do I preach; I answer questions for young people in my community and most of them call me "Dad". I'm no role model by the way; not by any stretch of the imagination. I am however, a very good listener, and our young need that these days.
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Have I helped anyone on ATS? Probably not, but that's fine. Some here have helped me. Some many times, and one even through emails. I hope this clears things up for everyone about me and my beliefs...


Sorry if I sound irritable autowrench. I'm on my second day tobacco-free, and I've been smoking for more than 30 years; at times three packs a day. Quitting is very tough, especially cold turkey with no medical aids or substitutes like the e-cigs... Goodnight ya'll...

Originally posted by visualmiscreant
If you want to know why I am a Christian though, the best answer I can give you for that is that my life has led me in that direction. I don't attend Church, nor do I preach; I answer questions for young people in my community and most of them call me "Dad". I'm no role model by the way; not by any stretch of the imagination. I am however, a very good listener, and our young need that these days.
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Have I helped anyone on ATS? Probably not, but that's fine. Some here have helped me. Some many times, and one even through emails. I hope this clears things up for everyone about me and my beliefs...

I really liked your answer. It embodies the principals of my belief of Christianity, without the threatening aspects I often see posted.

Des

As a recent de-convert I would first have to ask to you define a Christian. From what I understand, all that is required is to love your "God" with all your body mind and soul. Secondly, to love your neighbor as yourself. Which ponders the question, " On the days when I am hating on myself is it okay to hate my neighbors as well?" And with our dualistic nature, isn't it an impossible task to 100% commit to anything. I personally asked Jesus to indwell and change my life, maybe he didn't like my double wide or my bad-ass attitude? Was I not worthy? Cause I am still me. I have decided that I like me, and those who know me know me. I can eat all the sacramental wafer I want, the only thing it is going to give me is a sore pancreas! I am as inclined to believe that he will be back with the Mahdi, lopping heads and not taking names, as he would to rapture all the christzions. Now I contemplate the sound of one hand clapping, or, if a fat girl falls in the forest do the trees laugh? I might have got that last riddle wrong, but it alwaays makes me laugh! Peace out, biotches. Men are faithless, if you can start with that, then you have started.

Originally posted by autowrench
I was asked this by a friend who is a member, and thought it a good question to ask of the devout membership for an answer. Here goes:

As an Internet Preacher, we are aware your mission is to gain converts, that much is a given. What I want to ask is, how many of the ATS membership have you been able to "Save?" How many have recanted their ways and old religions, and fully embraced Christianity because of you?

Please feel free to crow here.

Dear autowrench,

If I preach to people on Sunday does that mean I have to gain converts here? I don't think so, not my job. You want to hear me preach come to services on Sunday. Your assumptions are astounding. If me or others post in the spirituality sections, are we not allowed to seek honest debate on things we wonder about?

Someone asked me to help at their church and preach on Sundays, I agreed (though I never felt the calling). Let me save you the time, I have never been paid and contribute to the church that I teach at. I was a great candidate because I thing most of what organized churches teach has been corrupted to the point of uselessness. One of things they forgot is that we do not "save" anyone, that is between you and god, I am not involved unless chooses to come to my church or engage in a true conversation. Preachers are nothing more than tools and my wrench never fixed my car, I did, it was just a tool.

I love your final line, "feel free to crow". Your arrogance and misunderstanding of the bible and what we are supposed to do is pretty common. I will assume you learned it from bad christians who taught the same foolishness, the ones who think they save people. I am not in any way responsible for anyone's salvation, Jesus paid that price. Our job is to give an answer for the truth that is in us, the hope that is in us and the love that is in us. We all fail at that, none are perfect, not even believers.

How many have I saved? Zero. How many people may have read something that I wrote that helped them in any way? I have no idea and don't care, it is my job to speak my knowledge and my mind. If you are an atheist, now is your time to crow. How many believers have you saved from religion? The answer is zero, we all choose. Remember that someday, it will come in handy. Peace.

And isn't the sabbath from sundown friday to sundown saturday. If the lord came to uphold the law, are we not supposed to observe the sabbath. work six ann rest on the seventh? Christianity has been subverted and perverted and converted into something it was never meant to be. Just my five sparrows.

Originally posted by ezekielken
And isn't the sabbath from sundown friday to sundown saturday. If the lord came to uphold the law, are we not supposed to observe the sabbath. work six ann rest on the seventh? Christianity has been subverted and perverted and converted into something it was never meant to be. Just my five sparrows.

Absolutely