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Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by beezzer
Seriously, do you really think that Mitt R would take the Latin vote if Obama had not done this?
Whether Obama did this or not he still gets the Latin vote.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I find it hilarious that people think that not deporting them makes them citizens who can vote
I'm hoping people really don't think that...and are just trying to spread lies...it's the lesser of the two ignorance.
The move may generate enthusiasm among many Latinos: 85 percent of registered Latino voters said in a Latino Decisions poll that they support the DREAM Act. The president enjoys a strong lead among Hispanic voters over Mitt Romney, but a lack of enthusiasm among these voters could mean they stay home on Election Day in swing states like Nevada, Colorado and Florida.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer
Everything a politician does it political.
Republicans who are talking against this...is political.
This is harming no one...it is giving people a chance at a better life...people who have no criminal record and are good members of society. Even the argument that they are a criminal because they are here illegally doesn't work because this is only for people who were brought here as children by their parents...you can charge a kid with a crime that the parent commits.
The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.
Originally posted by UnaChispa
reply to post by neo96
Romney is NOT Hispanic. His relatives lived in Mexico for awhile, that is it.
That is like saying a black guy is Caucasian because he lives in England.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
I find it hilarious that people think that not deporting them makes them citizens who can vote
I find it hilarious that people think that this is not his way of securing more hispanic vote.
No matter if it's those - new with amnesty- themselves, or others who are here.
Eventually those with amnesty will be citizens and voting. Guess who they'll vote for?
He did this UNILATERALLY and is acting like an emperor .. all to get votes for the democrats.
Yes, it will get him votes...because it is the right thing to do.
I'm sorry he isn't a heartless bastard...but you have Mitt Romney to fill that position...so vote for him all you want.
Republicans are criticizing the move as an executive overreach. "This decision avoids dealing with Congress and the American people instead of fixing a broken immigration system once and for all,"
In 2005, the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that up to 3 percent of the 30,000 individuals called for jury duty from voter registration rolls over a two-year period in just one U.S. district court were not U.S. citizens. While that may not seem like many, just 3 percent of registered voters would have been more than enough to provide the winning presidential vote margin in Florida in 2000. Indeed, the Census Bureau estimates that there are over a million illegal aliens in Florida, and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has prosecuted more non-citizen voting cases in Florida than in any other state.
Florida is not unique. Thousands of non-citizens are registered to vote in some states, and tens if not hundreds of thousands in total may be present on the voter rolls nationwide. These numbers are significant: Local elections are often decided by only a handful of votes, and even national elections have likely been within the margin of the number of non-citizens illegally registered to vote.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer
You are assuming they are being added to the workforce...when in reality they are most likely already part of the workforce.
So your scenario doesn't make much sense.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by neo96
Wow...you really don't understand ethnicity...do you???
Usually I ignored the bashing threads here on presidents.
But I have had enuff of him bending over and selling us out.
He obviously has a different vision of America.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by UnaChispa
reply to post by neo96
Romney is NOT Hispanic. His relatives lived in Mexico for awhile, that is it.
That is like saying a black guy is Caucasian because he lives in England.
Try again Romney Father was born in Mexico which makes him Hispanic.
Just like all those people who came here and produced children are hispanic.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer
You are assuming they are being added to the workforce...when in reality they are most likely already part of the workforce.
So your scenario doesn't make much sense.
If you can show/prove that they are already in the workforce, I'd like to see the data.
Originally posted by TheTardis
I have a question. Was this posted online where we could read it before it was passed? Remember that transparency thing? I would like for the politicians that are ok with all this illegal migration to come live down here in the middle of it. Buy a house in one of the areas of town that is completely overrun. You can get them really cheap and the few Americans that still live in those areas do so because they cant sell their houses for anything close to what is owed on them. They are like locusts, They overrun an entire area of town and turn every parking lot into a mobile restaurant and every store front has Spanish writing. And when I go over that way for anything I quickly become the minority and am looked at like a freak for being there. I am sure where they live its a little bit nicer. Its convenient to let them in for votes when you dont have to watch your city turn into little mexico.
Ruben Navarrette Jr. Don't laugh. Technically, Romney is just as "Mexican" as former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who was born of a Mexican mother and American father. When Richardson ran for the White House in 2008, he was often touted by the media as someone who would become the nation's first Hispanic president.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer
You are assuming they are being added to the workforce...when in reality they are most likely already part of the workforce.
So your scenario doesn't make much sense.
If you can show/prove that they are already in the workforce, I'd like to see the data.
It's true...I can't prove that...and neither can you prove they aren't.
I guess it is a moot point.edit on 15-6-2012 by OutKast Searcher because: (no reason given)