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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

So now you do not believe Theodor Seuss Geise. Theodor Seuss Geise is wrong now is he?


back out friend. You are wrong.

Dont worry about the sorry.

You are funny


I just read your back out post and am shaking my head. You are very funny. I enjoyed this. I like to do a guy slowly. It was fun. I was right. You were wrong.

Like I said,dont worry about sorry


No sweetie, I'm saying YOU were wrong for making the assumption that she was pointing toward antisemetism when she clearly wasn't.
No need for sexual inferences as I have no interest in you regardless of your physical appearance, I require that a woman have intelligence and class, I'm just old fashioned that way.
I see that you are trying to "save face" now that you've been put in your place and excuse yourself from the conversation, so you may be excused now if that is what you need to do.
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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by 31Bravo
Case is rested.. there have been ZERO anti-Australian threads made.. you are simply a bitter person who hates America.


Agreed, but now working on them to help them sort through their serious psychological disfunction to prevent future instances


You guys have cognitive dissonance as I stated in an earlier post.

You have proven this.

I know a heck of alot about psychology by the way if you want to discuss that and the pyschology of different nations. I am very confident in my knowledge.

Are you?

Or is it kinda like how you claim to know what a story is about and insult a guy that is trying to show you that you are wrong. And then the guy shows you what the author said about the story.,proving me correct, and you still wont believe it. Talk about cognitive dissonance
You make me look like a genius friend

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by 31Bravo
Case is rested.. there have been ZERO anti-Australian threads made.. you are simply a bitter person who hates America.


Agreed, but now working on them to help them sort through their serious psychological disfunction to prevent future instances


You guys have cognitive dissonance as I stated in an earlier post.

You have proven this.

I know a heck of alot about psychology by the way if you want to discuss that and the pyschology of different nations. I am very confident in my knowledge.

Are you?

Or is it kinda like how you claim to know what a story is about and insult a guy that is trying to show you that you are wrong. And then the guy shows you what the author said about the story.,proving me correct, and you still wont believe it. Talk about cognitive dissonance
You make me look like a genius friend

en.wikipedia.org...

No, the cognitive dissonance is clearly in your court.
Sure, start a thread about psychology and I'll be happy to tutor you in it.
No one has said anything about what Suess' aim or goal was with the story, only with your interpretation of it when offered in a manner of acknowleding differences and putting them aside, you went off on the tangent of antisemetism which had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.
As far as making you look like a genius, yes, I have worked with special education students before and am quite successful at helping them develop a sense of self worth, it's just one of the things I do.



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by Germanicus

So now you do not believe Theodor Seuss Geise. Theodor Seuss Geise is wrong now is he?


back out friend. You are wrong.

Dont worry about the sorry.

You are funny


I just read your back out post and am shaking my head. You are very funny. I enjoyed this. I like to do a guy slowly. It was fun. I was right. You were wrong.

Like I said,dont worry about sorry


No sweetie, I'm saying YOU were wrong for making the assumption that she was pointing toward antisemetism when she clearly wasn't.
No need for sexual inferences as I have no interest in you regardless of your physical appearance, I require that a woman have intelligence and class, I'm just old fashioned that way.
I see that you are trying to "save face" now that you've been put in your place and excuse yourself from the conversation, so you may be excused now if that is what you need to do.
edit on 1-6-2012 by PurpleChiten because: (no reason given)


See,now you are being hysterical because you are wrong and trying to paint me as a bad guy.


Please answer this. Why,when the author says the same exact thing as me is my interpretation "interesting" in any way? What does interesting mean?

And there is no sexual inferences. That is a famous political reference from the great Paul Keating. Our former Prime Minister.

"I'm going to do you, son, and I'm going to do you slowly. ...- Paul Keating.

So now you are insulting our great former Prime Minister Paul keating? He said this to the opposition leader John Hewson. It is a much celebrated quote in Australias rich political history. We are masters of the quick wit and cutting comment. Its our larrikin nature. We are awesome.

Please dont insult Paul Keating. And you may have a dirty mind by the way. I always thought he meant that he would kill him slowly. Figeratively and politically of course.

Edit- that was a great quote if you look into it. A great line. Keating was a political force with a nice sharp toungue. We like that in Australia. We dont take ourselves too seriously. Like some.
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Edit- "Its hard god damn work making something this pretty,look like a chump!" - Billy Hoyle ( White Men Cant Jump ) See I like America
Billy Hoyle was cool. A great hustler like me
And that is what I mean by the Keating comment. Im not trying to prove anything to the likes of you. You seem like a lost cause. Im using you as a tee so that some less defensive person might read and get the idea.

Also you are insulting my country so I dont want you contributing to young Australians self loathing themselves because of bs American propaganda.

Fore!
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edit- I crack myself up. Its hard hard work
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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

See,now you are being hysterical because you are wrong and trying to paint me as a bad guy.


Please answer this. Why,when the author says the same exact thing as me is my interpretation "interesting" in any way? What does interesting mean?

And there is no sexual inferences. That is a famous political reference from the great Paul keating. Our former prime minister.

"I'm going to do you, son, and I'm going to do you slowly. ...- Paul Keating.

So now you are insulting our great former Prime Minister Paul keating? He said this to the opposition leader John Hewson. It is a much celebrated quote in Australias rich political history. We are masters of the quick wit and cutting comment. Its our larrikin nature. We are awesome.

Please dont insult Paul Keating. And you may have a dirty mind by the way. I always thought he meant that he would kill him slowly. Figeratively and politically of course.


Nah, just pointing out the obvious

I don't know who the heck Paul keating is and really don't have any interest in finding out

Yeah, he sounds like a real douche
sounds as though you need quite a bit of practice if you are to catch up with the rest of your coutry in quick wit
Nah, sounds more like keating was hitting on the guy, maybe he was cute or something, I don't judge.



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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You claim to have a quick wit, yet are taking absolutely FOREVER to respond (proving your lack thereof)... I gotta do some stuff (soak in the hot tub because I enjoy it) but will be back later unless I'm nice and sleepy when I get out.
Work on a good "come-back", I understand it may take you a while, this should give you the extended time you need



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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See that comment sounds homophobic.

If I was gay I may take offense.

There is an edit up the top in last post. And I disagree. my wit is razor. Dont let stars fool you. Most here are American after all. I also am a socialist. My star/post ratio is a miracle actually since most Americans with little depth to their opinions attack me constantly and call me hrtful things like a nazi or make fun of jobs I worked as a young man.

You have proven the point of the OP anyway.

Thankyou



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten
You claim to have a quick wit, yet are taking absolutely FOREVER to respond (proving your lack thereof)... I gotta do some stuff (soak in the hot tub because I enjoy it) but will be back later unless I'm nice and sleepy when I get out.
Work on a good "come-back", I understand it may take you a while, this should give you the extended time you need


You are very boring. Im kinda done. You proved my point.

But if you want more thats fine.

You should say you are sorry and read the OP again with an open mind. daas is trying to help you. So am I.

edit- I was also writing a very funny edit btw. I keep thinking you will quit while you are way behind (: I mean cmon. I made you look silly.

I dont mean to an I mean no offence. You have insulted me and my country but you dony even think you have. That is arrogance. It is also ignorance. You are also defensive and refuse to take criticism. This is also ignorant. I love it when someone shows me the truth and changes my opinion on something. America is not the saviour of the world and you people have no right to act superior. It is so ingrained in many that you are not aware of it. As I said,pre WW2 you were not like this. Think about it.

Nations are all proud.

Only you claims to be the "greatest". It is insulting. If I lived in Europe I would imagine I would be more insulted as they have a deeper history than America or Australia.

You people are brainwashed into a superiority complex. I know alot about them too so I would love to discuss. As I said I feel confident.in my grasp on psychology. And how it can apply to the psychology of a nation.

I personally think its all gypsie bs but its great for making people look silly. I owe Adler and Freud alot.
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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by 31Bravo

Just search through a lot of my threads


Seriously though:

North Korea directs missile towards Australia - This has to be probably the thread where the war between US and Aus picked up heat
Starts at around page 5/6/7 - Keep on reading it too, you'll see a bunch of crap lol:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Mass Brawl Erupts (This may be tongue in cheek, but still, it's a little battle with obscenities thrown by both sides):

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There are many more, i just can't be bothered with pointing out everything.

Good day to you

Case is rested.. there have been ZERO anti-Australian threads made. Random comments are hardly anything close to this thread committed to hatred of America and it's citizens.. you are simply a bitter person who hates America. Best advice I can give you for the potential butt hurt comments in your future threads.. "sticks and stones"


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Random comments? i don't see how. It's like the "anti-Australian" posts are methodologically created in threads regarding Australia. In particular on threads started by myself, Germanicus and Jace (until he got pinged by a mod for some reason). The posts are also on threads that have nothing to do with hate, yet Americans love to start these...these wars.

As for the thread ordeal. I haven't found one yet (it doesn't help that ATS's search is not excellent), but it doesn't mean that there isn't one somewhere. Also this thread is not committed to the hatred of Americans.

You know what, i am sick off it. Germanicus is attacked for pointing out flaws in society and the US government. I am attacked for pointing out flaws in the cognitive processes of many American (and foreign) posters. In fact Australians are generally attacked by members of ATS for no reason at all. Even before i joined there were few attacks. It has however, skyrocketed for some unknown reason,
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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


See that comment sounds homophobic.

If I was gay I may take offense.

There is an edit up the top in last post. And I disagree. my wit is razor. Dont let stars fool you. Most here are American after all. I also am a socialist. My star/post ratio is a miracle actually since most Americans with little depth to their opinions attack me constantly and call me hrtful things like a nazi or make fun of jobs I worked as a young man.

You have proven the point of the OP anyway.

Thankyou

BWAAAHAHAHAHA yeah... I'm just seriously homophobic ROFLMAO!!!
no sweetie, you don't have much wit, but if you want to think you do, go right ahead BAHAHAHAAAA
Proved he is nuts? Yup, sure did!



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by daaskapital
. In fact Australians are generally attacked by members of ATS for no reason at all. Even before i joined there were few attacks. It has however, skyrocketed for some unknown reason


You seriously don't see the correlation?? It's pretty glaring and everybody else sees it... seriously???
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posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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OK, you two fess up, you're running some kind of parody or something aren't you?
You HAVE to be because there is no way possible that two people could actually think that way.

Come on, fess up... is it just for fun or a college assignment or something like that? You can't possibly be serious, there is absolutely no way in the world, it's just not possible



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by daaskapital

yet Americans love to start these...these wars.



i'm an ignorant american, please show me a list of "anti'austirala" threads. ^.~


Originally posted by daaskapital
As for the thread ordeal. I haven't found one yet (it doesn't help that ATS's search is not excellent), but it doesn't mean that there isn't one somewhere. Also this thread is not committed to the hatred of Americans.


you straight stated americans on ats are ignorant. How could we not take insult?


Originally posted by daaskapital
You know what, i am sick off it. Germanicus is attacked for pointing out flaws in society and the US government (something we all do).


Amen, why he made my friends list. Because honest commentary on why america is mistaken instead of suggesting we're all just a bunch of dumb a's is an honest interpretation without insulting the population...


Originally posted by daaskapital
I am attacked for pointing out flaws in the cognitive processes of many American (and foreign) posters. In fact Australians are generally attacked by members of ATS for no reason at all. Even before i joined there were few attacks. It has however, skyrocketed for some unknown reason,


Please point where, I personally never read such a post, but some back up would help me deny ignorance.

This is what i'm getting at. Originally, it comes off as "every american is some redneck moron". This is hardly the case. Most americans are like you. Doing the best they can with what they have to work with. Why are the average american, the american ATSer, so evil, in you eyes? What did I ever do to you my man? I never did anything to anyone other than run my own home. My own life. Why am I "stupid for being american"? Am I brainwashed because I care for my family? Am I so evil because I raise my child? Because I stood up and took care of my family? What did I do wrong? Why,as just being an american, am I part of the problem?

Can't you see this is a world wide issue? Can't you see this isn't just an american thing? Why all the hate on america?

But frick all that. Do my avatar, and just "IGNORE ME", seem to be doing it well so far. See, that's the problem here on this thread. You pick and choose. You get honest commentary or honest questions and skip past it just to argue with those that disagree instead of answering those curious of the why. I feel it. It's easier that way. I forgive it. Christ told me to. But that's why I end my discussion here (unless, I get a reply that seems to honor a response...because, let's face it...like I stated in original response, nothing I state here will matter...people will hate america because it's tready...and that reason alone is a joke that most won't except, but enjoy popularity over.)

Out.
edit on 1-6-2012 by Lasr1oftheJedi because: grammar. ignorant american, ignore me!



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
edit- I was also writing a very funny edit btw.


did you delete it? I'd like to see something funny if you're capable of it because you haven't displayed anything yet... unless of course this is a ruse and a parody... but still, I'd have to say FAIL on it because it's blarringly fake



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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They seriously have to be doing some type of parody or something. There is absolutely no way two people could be that stupid and still be able to type in complete sentences.
Not a very good one mind you, but everybody has to start somewhere I guess.



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by daaskapital
. In fact Australians are generally attacked by members of ATS for no reason at all. Even before i joined there were few attacks. It has however, skyrocketed for some unknown reason


You seriously don't see the coorelation?? It's pretty glaring and everybody else sees it... seriously???




posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by daaskapital


Random comments? i don't see how. It's like the "anti-Australian" posts are methodologically created in threads regarding Australia. In particular on threads started by myself, Germanicus and Jace (until he got pinged by a mod for some reason). The posts are also on threads that have nothing to do with hate, yet Americans love to start these...these wars.

ok, now read what you just wrote. You say there are anti-australian threads started by people, then say you started the threads yourself... do you not see the connection here?



As for the thread ordeal. I haven't found one yet (it doesn't help that ATS's search is not excellent), but it doesn't mean that there isn't one somewhere. Also this thread is not committed to the hatred of Americans.

well yeah, it pretty much is commited to hatred of Americans, you said so yourself. Yet you say you haven't found a thread yet that was committed to the hatred of Australia even though that's what you're asserting in the paragraph just before this one... you keep shooting yourself in the foot...



You know what, i am sick off it. Germanicus is attacked for pointing out flaws in society and the US government. I am attacked for pointing out flaws in the cognitive processes of many American (and foreign) posters.

ok, you say you don't, then you say you do, then you say you don't, now you're back to saying you do. Can you not see how all these issues are a product of your own making? Come on, you can't seriously think the things you are claiming can you? ... if this is a parody, you still have some work to do as far as development, but, as I said on another post, everybody has to start somewhere



In fact Australians are generally attacked by members of ATS for no reason at all. Even before i joined there were few attacks. It has however, skyrocketed for some unknown reason,
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As I said on the other post. It skyrocketed because you made it skyrocket. There weren't any attacks before, you created them. They are a product of YOU and your behavior, not the behavior of the people you are whining about. Can you seriously not see this or is that part of your ruse for your parody? Still a great deal of work to do on your methodology...



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Lasr1oftheJedi

i'm an ignorant american, please show me a list of "anti'austirala" threads. ^.~


I never said you were ignorant...



you straight stated americans on ats are ignorant. How could we not take insult?


I said "most," then retracted it to "many." I also agreed that there are many "foreigners" who share the issues i stated


Amen, why he made my friends list. Because honest commentary on why america is mistaken instead of suggesting we're all just a bunch of dumb a's is an honest interpretation without insulting the population...


I agree. Many Americans on ATS do however, take offence when we criticise the government...it is ironic considering they, too do it.


Please point where, I personally never read such a post, but some back up would help me deny ignorance.


Please make yourself clearer. What do you want me to show you? The attacks on me, or the attacks against Australians for no reason?


This is what i'm getting at. Originally, it comes off as "every american is some redneck moron". This is hardly the case. Most americans are like you. Doing the best they can with what they have to work with.


I'm not denying that. I am not attacking all Americans, nor all Americans on ATS. This is one thing that all of you find hard to comprehend.


Why are the average american, the american ATSer, so evil, in you eyes?


They aren't


What did I ever do to you my man?


Nothing


I never did anything to anyone other than run my own home. My own life. Why am I "stupid for being american"? Am I brainwashed because I care for my family? Am I so evil because I raise my child? Because I stood up and took care of my family? What did I do wrong? Why,as just being an american, am I part of the problem?


i didn't call you stupid or evil. I never said you were a part of the problem. Unless, you don't like knowledge and prefer to live in ignorance...


Can't you see this is a world wide issue? Can't you see this isn't just an american thing? Why all the hate on america?


I have stated plenty of freaking times in ALL of my threads that it is a world wide problem. Most the Americans here however read it as "all Americans have the problem and no one else."


But frick all that. Do my avatar, and just "IGNORE ME", seem to be doing it well so far. See, that's the problem here on this thread. You pick and choose. You get honest commentary or honest questions and skip past it just to argue with those that disagree instead of answering those curious of the why.


The massive influx of replies was hard to keep up with, trying to reply to everyone... you know?


I feel it. It's easier that way. I forgive it. Christ told me to. But that's why I end my discussion here (unless, I get a reply that seems to honor a response...because, let's face it...like I stated in original response, nothing I state here will matter...people will hate america because it's tready...and that reason alone is a joke that most won't except, but enjoy popularity over.)


I do not hate America, i try to explain this yet no one is willing to listen...

Good day.



posted on Jun, 1 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten


ok, now read what you just wrote. You say there are anti-australian threads started by people, then say you started the threads yourself... do you not see the connection here?


No, i never said there was anti-Australian threads, only anti-Australian post in threads regarding Australia. The Anti-Australian behaviour is more prevalent in post started by myself, Germanicus and the member formally known as jace (Most the times, these threads had nothing to do with ant-Americanism).


well yeah, it pretty much is commited to hatred of Americans, you said so yourself.


Yes, i agree there


Yet you say you haven't found a thread yet that was committed to the hatred of Australia even though that's what you're asserting in the paragraph just before this one... you keep shooting yourself in the foot...


I mentioned nothing regarding an Anti-Australian thread, other than the fact that i couldn't find one.


ok, you say you don't, then you say you do, then you say you don't, now you're back to saying you do.





Can you not see how all these issues are a product of your own making? Come on, you can't seriously think the things you are claiming can you? ... if this is a parody, you still have some work to do as far as development, but, as I said on another post, everybody has to start somewhere


It is a parody if you want it to be...


As I said on the other post. It skyrocketed because you made it skyrocket. There weren't any attacks before, you created them. They are a product of YOU and your behavior, not the behavior of the people you are whining about. Can you seriously not see this or is that part of your ruse for your parody? Still a great deal of work to do on your methodology...


So all the hate towards Australia and Australians has skyrocketed because of my self...alone?


I assure you there were definitely attacks by Americans towards Australians before i "started" this so called war.

Thanks
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posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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Thanx PurpleChiten...

Aussies Rock!






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