Girl, 16, Kills Herself After Researching 2012 Doomsday Threads...

I don't believe this is a false flag as has been suggested, but I do believe it will be used to the benefit of those who have the power to do so.

Taking the article at face value for the moment, it seems to me the bigger part of responsibility lies squarely on the shoulders of those who have fostered and perpetuated an atmosphere of deception and distrust in this world. Namely those who are usually called TPTB.

It is their actions and example in this world that have given reason and rise to an independent cross-section of our society that knows those in the seats of power in this world can't be trusted. A cross-section that isn't satisfied with the "official" word on anything. So much so, that they spend a good portion of their lives researching, and doing their best to expose the widespread corruption, deception, and hidden agendas, among the elitists and the governments.

Are their grifters who take advantage of this, and create an industry out of it? Sure. And some of those grifters are governments themselves. They can muddy the hell out of the waters, and make money doing it.

I feel truly saddened for this young lady. But as far as I'm concerned, at this point anyway, she is another victim of the heartless creatures running this world.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
it will only get worse

RIP

there will be at least one cult that does a mass suicide in december

sad

Will that be the cult of fortune tellers ?

I don't really believe in this hocus pocus, but since you are convinced you can tell the future, would you mind letting us know the forecast for solar flares for the next 700days?

I mean hey if you can tell the future with one thing why not the other?

My heart goes out to this girl's family... but there is no way that doomsday stories were what inspired her to kill herself.

Suicide is such a serious thing that there needs to be something wrong mentally or physically to cause someone to do it. I mean, taking one's own life is just against survival instincts.
For this girl... there was something else wrong - and if she was capable of ending her own life, then it's irrelevant what she was researching or learning about.

I've been there and barely survived. And it turned out that my iron levels had bottomed out which caused me to basically go completely mental. And at the time... no matter what anyone said to me, and no matter what I was exposed to, it wouldn't have changed my mind.
This girl was probably in a similar place. And I'll admit, I'm sure that researching doomsday scenarios didn't help the situation... but it certainly didn't inspire her to end her life.

I really hope people don't use this story to try and silence conspiracy sites.

Originally posted by Trolloks
The world just got a little lighter.....

I have no sympathy for this girl. She seemed to not use any critical thinking, you can't just believe everything you read about these things, you should take everything with a pinch of salt. If you thought the world was going to end, and was so certain that you would hang yourself, then why would you kill yourself anyway? Why not just die when the world ends? At least then there is a chance that you would survive because it's not true (personaly, im not a 2012 believer).

No doubt people will jump on the bandwagon and blame people here and blame people there, but the fact is that there if no one to blame, it is her fault, no one elses. I may sound like a horrid person, or someone lacking in compasion, but in all seriousness, she did it, and it was no one elses fault.

Not only are you a completely heartless A**HOLE to post something like that, SIX people here starred your comment?

What the hell is wrong with some of you? SHE'S DEAD and you're on here, anonymously poo pooing her?

Amazing.... just unbelievable.

I get my account suspended because I post a picture of Obama wearing a Tshirt listing his inadequacies as POTUS but it's considered acceptable behaviour here to rip into a girl who, obviously very troubled, decided to end her own life?

PATHETIC



This is incredibly sad. I would think there are some very "powerful" people somewhere, rubbing their hands together with glee over this, because it's one less "eater" they now have to worry about.

Is that the kind of company you want to keep with?

JERKS

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Just like when i drink a glass of water i shoudlnt assume that i wont explode.

So i always caution people to stay atleast 50 feet away from me when i drink water because to assume that i wont explode would be a faith based belief. Or like when i take my socks off i put them in a farady cage to protect them from the hallow interdementional purple unicorn sock thieves. Not spending every moment convincing yourself the most outlandish senarios dreamed up by idiots wont threaten your life isnt illogical.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by SaturnFX

As a skeptic, I am not doing a good enough job debunking the EOTW stuff that pops up.

That's not a skeptic.

A skeptic doesn't know the end result and seeks answers.

You sound like you already have your mind made up, that the world isn't going to end any time soon, and that any claim that it will is automatically 'debunked'.

This means that you are actually a faith based believer, you have faith they are wrong, and you believe that you know what you are talking about.

This is very different than the generalized skeptic who admits they do not know the future and instead applies logic and questions things until the facts become more apparent.

edit on 18-5-2012 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)

I don't know when civilization will end. I am certainly open to the idea, and am overall concerned about a multitude of things, from the very real space threat of asteroids and such coming in and bonking us. Its why I support things like nasa and the like so we can be better informed.
I say debunk things as they come down..because what can be debunked, should be debunked asap in order to not let it grow into something bigger than it need be.

I try not to go into threads dismissing things just on principle...hell, I still read the planet x type threads before concluding anything..of course, I am leaning heavily towards this being already put to bed, but never know, so will at least read through things until I trip on the first misconception or presumption based in inaccurate data.

Tomorrow a earthquake may swallow the world, or a dragon will fly down and toast us..sure...but without sound evidence by actual reputable sources, then why entertain the notion overall as anything to be seriously considered? A bajillion different scenerios with no evidence may happen tomorrow...if the actual core evidence of say, reptilian skinjobs is the exact same as spagetti monster ghosts coming to eat the eyes out of people..why would I become worried about the reptilians..or not worry about spagetti ghost monsters...

Ultimately, until there is strong evidence, preferrably peer reviewed, showing something destructive...then it should be treated as an academic hypothesis moreso than something to prepare for..no?

The radiation coming from the meltdown is a real threat...this worries me a lot more than nibiru..there is quantifable evidence of a quite unnerving set of events going on that we need to first off, fully understand, and then counter with equal good science.

My only belief comes in how we should handle claims, not how to believe or not believe in claims in general.

Ultimately, until there is strong evidence, preferrably peer reviewed, showing something destructive...then it should be treated as an academic hypothesis moreso than something to prepare for..no?

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Thing is SFX, they keep the details to themselves

All us plebs have is the internet

Look at all of the lies coming out of Fukushima? Or the so called war on terror.. If it was not for the net I guess a lot of us would be throwing ourselves at the "enemy" gladly...

Originally posted by EvanB

Ultimately, until there is strong evidence, preferrably peer reviewed, showing something destructive...then it should be treated as an academic hypothesis moreso than something to prepare for..no?

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Thing is SFX, they keep the details to themselves

All us plebs have is the internet

Look at all of the lies coming out of Fukushima? Or the so called war on terror.. If it was not for the net I guess a lot of us would be throwing ourselves at the "enemy" gladly...

edit on 18-5-2012 by EvanB because: (no reason given)

Thing is, if "they' kept all the details, then how can we suggest doom due to lack of details.

Always made me curious how we know soo much about secret organizations due to some guy whom says he knows due to a friend of a friends testimony...(typically we gotta know the secrets via buying a book that hints and insinuates).
Then we get the people whom tell us the "real" story because they read the book of that guy whom wrote the book about the other guy whom had a secret source, etc...

I am not saying don't question things...quite the opposite..question everything, but make sure to include questioning the authenticity of not just your source of info, but their source, and so on until you actually get some credibility..then cut out all the middlemen.

Are their secrets? oh no doubt...but the thing about a secret..its typically not known by hundreds of people claiming they know and are telling the secrets all the time..and when some secrets do come out, its packed on with 400 lies to tuck the secrets away.

Who knows..Bob Dean may be correct about 20% of his claims, but that just means 80% of what he says is bull (example)...would you eat a apple that was 80% rotten?

thats what happens when you are unable to discern truth from fiction.

I haven't come across ONE doomsday ANYTHING where i've believed it even slightly...

I wonder if because she was buddhist she thought she would reincarnate or something

reply to post by SaturnFX


Or brains are machines. These machines make mistakes and a few of us are programmed to find reasons for these errors more often than others. If you can, use the following questions as a guide.

"Why do bannanas taste like winter?"
"Why does yellow sound like rain?"
"Why do bad things happen to good people?"
"What happens to us when we die?"

Do you see?

I have read the whole link and the headline doesn't really fit with the story. Sure she read about 2012 end stories. But from what I understand, she just couldn't stand/handle how life is.
Like how animals are treated and injustice and you name it.
Sure she wished for another/better world, so perhaps she felts some comfort in those doom stories since, that means big change. At least this world with all the # as it is today, would be no more.
She just couldn't wait and stand it to be here 1 day longer?

But to blaim the 2012 doom stories, is far searched IMO.

Stuff like this is so sad. Makes me think this is what THEY want.

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The loss of a child are the worst kind of loss. I think we should give the digging for facts a topic off and focus on the plausible "what if" scenario here. This case may or may not be caused primarily because of said reason. Any way I't may still happen to others.

Still It's irresponsible work by the media that we see all to often. Pointing left and right to blame and get a story. Who is to say that those who take the conspiracy theories to serious without researching it for themselves will not do the same for media content? People hate,fear and idolize where the media point them to everyday. They hide their own game by accusing others of knowingly doing the same.

To the family:
I am sorry for your loss. Remember, never forget.

natural selection

Thanks for taking the time to share this for the OP. Right about the time I made my account here and took the big plunge, there was a kind sounding Teenager from Georgia, as I recall, on the boards and sounding much like this one is described as being. As I think back, the teen I'd noticed here was focused on the Navy maps showing a divided United States at some future point by water flooding right up the Mississippi valley and essentially cutting us all in half right there. I never put much into those maps and I've seen them often enough on this site or others....but I recall her talk was so serious and down, I wasn't the only one here voicing more than a little concern about how fatalistic the young girl sounded.


I'm sorry to say that wasn't enough for me to take a step back and start moderating myself for how far into the doom porn I played. It took September last year and Elenin at the same time as the UN GA and Palestinian thing looking to blow. That is where it really hit me...some are NOT taking this casually as something to sit back and "scare" each other with over forums in some warped kinda entertainment, I think a majority really think of it all as. SOME out here are reading the same posts the rest of us are....and taking them deadly serious.

I wonder...if this story and a confirmed death from what sounds like a pure overdose of doom porn might cause others to just take a moment. No more...just a moment, to consider how far is too far on war gaming worst case scenarios that have a 1:million chance of ever actually happening? Hell, we have things like Fukushima and that isn't theory...who needs to hammer things that haven't happened yet?

I feel sorry for this girl because she was too naive to accept stories without acting upon them, at least do a little research, ask questions instead of just reading and accepting them as truth.

If you know someone that knows someone like her, send them to ATS and have them read the entire fear mongering threads and how ridiculous it will seem that there's an end of the world coming soon.

Im 15 and Im heavly intriqued with a broad number of conspiracy theories and have realized some of them are truth and this world we live in is as abstract as can be. I have those low times where im down and thinking,"wow this is real" times are going to be chaotic for those not willing to accept and face the future. I hope the best for the family of isabela.

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Agreed, It was not the information or theories at all, it was delusional thought processes that killed this poor girl. She needed help desperately and unfortunately, it did not come in time. There is a lot of scary things out there, from conspiracy theories to stories of monsters under the bed. Just because she happened to become fixated on doomsday theories, doesn't mean the theories themselves were responsible. To be quite honest there are endless "ideas" that may have led to the same conclusion. It's not an aspect that we ourselves should fixate on when reading this story either, as it's really not much different saying "Doomsday stories are ruining the world! End them all!". It may lead to different behaviors but it remains along the lines of faulty logic and disturbed thought processes. This story should be looked at for just what it is: A tragic story of a sick girl who succumbed to her own mind. At most, you might be able to stretch a moral to this story that maybe we aren't caring enough for the mental health of our young. But even then, that's quite the leap in itself.

It is just Darwin working as intended.