The Bible and the war against God's true and only work.

More correct Bible Interpretation.

Jesus died for the Sins of Man because he was fighting the Babylon Talmud corruption of religion that was held up by the Pharisee. Jesus' entire reason for being brought into the world was for the Essene Master Teachers to make the Christ Child into the Messiah. He was taught the Essene issues of relgion as it related to being a servant to others, not storing up vast wealth for oneself, and doing always benevolent things for others.

Jesus problems of that period have worsened in this day, it is the same old differences rooted in a different time and date. Jesus message is carried into this day by those who sought to make Jesus into god in men's minds using Faith, but all of it the old ways of religious symbolisms. Jesus values survived the sands of time due to that word game and the last great war is over those that took up the Babylon ways Vs. those that took up the Essene's ways. The segragation of China, Russia, Iran, Syria Vs. US, UK, and Israel are basically that same division.

In the End-Tmes battle, the values of Jesus will win out, and his theology backers will have the backing of all of Islam as they approve of Jesus as the Great Prophet, but not God. The bad views of Biblical interpretations will fall, the bad ways of Judaism will fall, and the values of Jesus Essene system will win out. In the Symbolic Sense that will be Jesus' return and that symbolic sense that makes him god in the loosest sense of symbolisms. After the great battle due to that division of Religious and Governmental Order, the values of the Essene shall became the dominate religion and that means no Crosses from Babylon or Rome, no Babylon Imagery of falese gods being associated with the Prophet Jesus.

Most of the Bibles will just become dust collects of a by-gone age that now rightly respects science over Bible Mysticism.

For the intelligent Bible students, they all know the Mystery Schools teachings are about the Mysticism games for making gods of men. DaVinci made fun of the method on the Ceiling of the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican. The Masons just love that Painting on the Ceiling of the Vatican's Sisteen as they know what it means. It says the Vatican concept of god is that it only exists in the minds of man. The Knights Templars knew these methods and the truth so high the Vatican trembled over that truth. The Lost Tomb of Jeses tells the finite truth. Jesus had a Father, a Master Mother, a Wife, a child, a brother, and a bone box for himself. That reality inspired the interesting books and movies to these themes and Rosyln Chapel's secrets. Ron Howard made a really good movie.

Most of the ones with the tained ideas, become Holy Smoke when the Nuclear Bombs Burn areas of the planet to a crisp over such stupid beliefs that kept everyone from being ONE.

Then we find a unity of thought because what is left of man will have to agree what caused the divisions was irrational and greed based, and all that divisions over greed will end and the world will become one again.

What the essences of the problems have been all along is that of Capitalist Vs. Socialist perspective, that of Kings and Royals Vs Democratic Republic / Socialist views, that of making War for Gain Vs Peace via true Equality of all Mankind, the values of Thomas Jefferson Vs those of the Pope, the values of JFK Vs. Zionism. All the same dichotomy for those that understand

Very good song called "ONE of US" by Joan Osborne speaks to that idea. I suggest everyone get on the righteous bandwagon before it is too late.

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I've been BUSy, not employed atm, so been doing work at mom's house, doing volunteer work that I never get to participate in when I am employed, and I'm getting about 4 hrs of sleep a night, think i may try to get a full 8 hrs tonight... We at church were going to go to southern Indiana to help the people who were devastate by the tornadoes, to clean up and give them water and help them but found out Wednesday the trip was cancelled. The people in southern Indiana said they had such an outpouring of support that it was too crowded, and they still needed plumbers, electricians, and engineers. I'm none of those. I'm getting crabby today, tells me I'm getting low on sleeps.

Jealous about the Harley, but I'd like to get a C rocket. What kind of mpg does the hog get? I have a Caddy now and at $4 a gallon I'm goin nuts, it's killing me. Might be time to get a rocket for the summer, and a little Toyota Echo or something for the winter months, I dunno. :|

I'm glad you're good. Nope, I don't think i've ever stepped much outside my bubble here, I'm not too learned on those subjects of philosophy and Psychology, not sure how much use I'd be over there. I'll take a peek if you suggest it though. Good to talk to you Wild.

Sleeeeeepy deary...

NuT

Some Notes on 666:

Everyone wonders just what 666 might mean, and it will be rooted in Babylon and Egyptian type methods of expression from their Mystery Schools. The Essene and Pythagorias had the methods of the mystery schools and these people were not dumb, and in fact knew highly advanced mathematics they grabbed from the Egypians and the Babylon types.

They were masters of manupulation using visual methods for viewing numbers, making them squared and other geometrial methods that made proofs very easy. The mystery school teachings were everything from mathematics, how chemical compounds worked and how the odd rituals of old impressed ignorant peoples into thinking humans became god.

Pythagoras visited the Eseene camp at Mt, Carmel some 500 years before Jesus and Pythagoras father was associated with the old volcano vapors games of the Oracle of Delphi. The Essenes and Pythgoras ran very similar schools of training that gave only the serious higher access and better titles.

To understand 666 folks have to understand the Mystery School view of numbers and how they took on square and triangular features. So, time to check a couple URL's to see what that means:

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www.math.tamu.edu...

The number six: creation

Three points: generator of a triangle of dimension two


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www.friesian.com...

For the Essene numbers took on various shapes, much like how chemical compound do selection and fit together.

The Number 6 looked like this to them, everything had a geometry.


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O O
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So, the number Six is a "Triangular Number", and three triangular shape numbers are symbolic of Egypt's 3 Great Pyramids, and the Essene considered Egypt as highly Evil and as bad as Babylon.


The 666 would be representative of Egypt's methods and gods, which were about the same as Babylon's methods and gods using different names.


666 is about the ways of tyranny, the ways rituals were used to make people think humans were gods, and too many Babylon's ways were captured in the Babylon Talmud's corruption of religion.

The 666 is about the anti-Christ because the Essene and Jesus taught that the Babyon and Egyptian games for gods were bad, and that the Babylon Talmud was bad because it dragged in too many of those bad concepts into religion. The bad was everything from multiple gods to the practice of usury and excessive exploitation of the peoples.

The Study of Pythagorias' school, which is much the same as Mt. Carmels learning on mathematics and geometry unlocks the mathmatical symbolism for the 666. The 666 reference was from those of the higher learning of mathematics that was thousands of years old and would make symbolic sense over very long periods of time.

The 666 is also about those that "created" ( 6 symbol) a bunch of nonsense about their Trinity (symbolic 3), and these concepts were considered as the Whore of Babylon---Semiramis. The Synague of Satan were those that followed the Whole of Babylon's crazy teachings on human gods and the Babylon Talmud's writers were the Pharisee. They didn't like the Eseene or Jesus and likewise in return.

The 666 is a way of presenting both Egypt's and Babylon's evil---in the times of Jesus these were the Pharisee.

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the Essene considered Egypt as highly Evil and as bad as Babylon.

Whoa. Whoa whoa whoa here, Magnum.

The EsseneS LIVED in Egypt when Jesus went there (with his folks, fleeing the murderous rampage) as a kid.

I copied the above-quoted sentence (from early in your post) because I would like to know your source for this.

I admit I am new to the Jesus-Essene-Buddhist connection, but what I've read so far does not indicate this at all. Please provide sources for your statements.

Question:
What was Joshua's final tally in killing under his god's orders?

Quite a few.

Nice god. Loves everyone. Except those who stand in the way, eh?

Justify, please.
Killing in the name of love?

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by MagnumOpus

 

the Essene considered Egypt as highly Evil and as bad as Babylon.

Whoa. Whoa whoa whoa here, Magnum.

The EsseneS LIVED in Egypt when Jesus went there (with his folks, fleeing the murderous rampage) as a kid.

I copied the above-quoted sentence (from early in your post) because I would like to know your source for this.

I admit I am new to the Jesus-Essene-Buddhist connection, but what I've read so far does not indicate this at all. Please provide sources for your statements.

I suppose the first things to connect is the Essene considered Mose in most high regard. Moses was "Jewish" (actually hebrew people) and grew up in Pharo's court. Moses came to wipe out Pharo's army, create monotheism to combat the Egyptian's polytheism. This the Essene valued as winning freedom over slavery--high moral concepts.

In later times, the Egyptians were never considered good over those factors and the serpent terms often applied to Egypt. Egypt and Babylon shared religious gods or very similar polytherism methods. In the times of Moses, Babylon had been in existance very long and became the model of Egytian's gods.

Some of the snake themes applied to Egypt----remember their alchemical poison methods was the symbolic snake:

www.christiananswersforthenewage.org...

While some of the Essene lived and learned in Egypt, being attracted to the Library of Alexandria to do what they sought most, knowledge, they did not agree with the leadership of Egypt. They were there to extract knowledge, learning, learning from the therapute their healing, and going after the good things. But all of Egypt was not considered good. The Essene liked the healing knowledge of the thrapute. The Essene liked learning about the Alchemy.

Egypt's evil side was what caused Moses to start Monotheism. Pharo was the enemy of monotheism and Moses. The Essene living in Egypt does not mean they approved of Egypt's ways, as they were there to learn the good parts, and not revere the bad. Dens of Vipers, Den of Snakes was the term for Egypt, as their alchemists had some of the ways of Moses Ark and those methods were the symbolic battle with Moses Staff attacking the Pharos staff with that imagery of snakes in battle on the floor,

Many parts of the Mystery School learning from both Egypt and Babylon provided good knowledge as well as knowledge of the evil ways of which man tried to become a tyrant and install himself as god, That knowledge is what allowed the Essene to seek their more pure beliefs for being servants to man (benevolent godlike) and not exploiters of man (satanlike snakes).

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Okay. Clarification accepted.
All of that is what I understand as well.

So you are referring to the Pharoah's style and the Egyptians who followed it.
Gotcha.

The rest I have no problem with. Thanks for the link.

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Egypt in the Bible is hated with extreme bitterness!

The Bible talks about Egypt as if it's satan himself. It is such an evil land that the Bible claims that GOD Almighty prohibited the Jews from ever again going into Egypt after the Exodus:

Deuteronomy 17
16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the LORD has told you, "You are not to go back that way again."

Jeremiah 43
1 When Jeremiah finished telling the people all the words of the LORD their God—everything the LORD had sent him to tell them-
2 Azariah son of Hoshaiah and Johanan son of Kareah and all the arrogant men said to Jeremiah, "You are lying! The LORD our God has not sent you to say, 'You must not go to Egypt to settle there.'
3 But Baruch son of Neriah is inciting you against us to hand us over to the Babylonians, so they may kill us or carry us into exile to Babylon."
4 So Johanan son of Kareah and all the army officers and all the people disobeyed the LORD's command to stay in the land of Judah.
5 Instead, Johanan son of Kareah and all the army officers led away all the remnant of Judah who had come back to live in the land of Judah from all the nations where they had been scattered.
6 They also led away all the men, women and children and the king's daughters whom Nebuzaradan commander of the imperial guard had left with Gedaliah son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan, and Jeremiah the prophet and Baruch son of Neriah.
7 So they entered Egypt in disobedience to the LORD and went as far as Tahpanhes.

Jeremiah 44
11 "Therefore, this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: I am determined to bring disaster on you and to destroy all Judah.
12 I will take away the remnant of Judah who were determined to go to Egypt to settle there. They will all perish in Egypt; they will fall by the sword or die from famine. From the least to the greatest, they will die by sword or famine. They will become an object of cursing and horror, of condemnation and reproach.
13 I will punish those who live in Egypt with the sword, famine and plague, as I punished Jerusalem.
14 None of the remnant of Judah who have gone to live in Egypt will escape or survive to return to the land of Judah, to which they long to return and live; none will return except a few fugitives."
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24 Then Jeremiah said to all the people, including the women, "Hear the word of the LORD, all you people of Judah in Egypt.
25 This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: You and your wives have shown by your actions what you promised when you said, 'We will certainly carry out the vows we made to burn incense and pour out drink offerings to the Queen of Heaven.'
"Go ahead then, do what you promised! Keep your vows!
26 But hear the word of the LORD, all Jews living in Egypt: 'I swear by my great name,' says the LORD, 'that no one from Judah living anywhere in Egypt will ever again invoke my name or swear, "As surely as the Sovereign LORD lives."
27 For I am watching over them for harm, not for good; the Jews in Egypt will perish by sword and famine until they are all destroyed.
28 Those who escape the sword and return to the land of Judah from Egypt will be very few. Then the whole remnant of Judah who came to live in Egypt will know whose word will stand—mine or theirs.

We clearly and indisputably see that the Bible clearly and explicitly prohibiting for all Jews to enter Egypt and to settle in it. GOD Almighty (assuming that the Bible's accounts are correct and not corrupt) carries so much hate toward Egypt that He treats worse than satan!

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TextI admit I am new to the Jesus-Essene-Buddhist connection, but what I've read so far does not indicate this at all. Please provide sources for your statements.

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There is no connection between Jesus , Essene and Buddha it is all a new age lie written by the father of all lies.

Originally posted by Azadok

There is no connection between Jesus , Essene and Buddha it is all a new age lie written by the father of all lies.

More like Jesus and the Essene are a long suppressed close association by those not intent on telling the truths of religion, so it would come to the Days of Armageddon by those so intent on white wash of history.

The Essene have a history going way back much before the times of Jesus, even including Pythagoaras.

Perhaps you should go discover the Essene's various archiological areas at three different sites. Discover especially that they were Guardians of the Tomb of David and Jesus Last Supper was the Upper Room over the Tomb of David.

The Bible speaks to finding the Essene in Jerusalem by looking for the males getting water from the wells, where all but the Essene were women.

reply to post by Azadok

There is no connection between Jesus , Essene and Buddha it is all a new age lie written by the father of all lies.

You don't learn about it until Graduate school. Tell a 4th grader about quantum phsyics, and they'll tell you it's a fairy tale. I mean, try to tell them. They probably will start crying, or call for help, though, from Mommy.

You don't have to believe it to make it true.
Grow up, put on your adult pants, and read. In time, you'll understand.

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Why read fairy tales propagated by Islamic apologists and believe them as truth when the truth is in front of your face?

Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by wildtimes

 

Why read fairy tales propagated by Islamic apologists and believe them as truth when the truth is in front of your face?

I make a daily exercise (in fact a full-time job if you go by hours per week) of EXAMINING the FACTS and the EVIDENCE, and accurate, thorough TRANSLATIONS of ALL materials available from the original documents that are addressed by scholars, archaeologists, neutral parties, historians, and theologists all over the world. ("None of which you are allowed to hear or learn, OR ELSE!!...you know where you'll goOOOooo...")

(That's right: NOT TO CHURCH and NOT TO THE BIBLE for answers.)

So, your statement doesn't apply to me on any level whatsoever.
Islamic apologists?

Notovitch was certainly not an Islamist apologist. Neither are the Buddhists where the Life of St Issa is recorded, including the whereabouts of Jesus during his early years, and after he left the Temple (little tidbits that the Bible conveniently "neglects to mention"). And for that matter, after he survived the crucifixion (another inconvenience....like the gnostic and coptic Gospels, which were jettisoned from the "holy word" before being released to the wolves for exclusive circulation, complete with "appropriate and secret interpretation" to be doled out piece by piece to the vulnerable.)

Why label history as fairy tales when there is proof ON THE GROUND of what happened?

*sigh* I really worry about you folks, members of a CONSPIRACY site, who spend your energy denying what is obvious to the person who is simply willing to read. The truth is "in front of my face" when I'm reading resourced material and excerpts from original documents that have been verified. So your entire premise is idiotic.

Why read fairy tales propagated by false "Christianity" when the truth is in the internet at your fingertips, in front of your face, or books written by experts with decades of study and knowledge?

IMO, the answer is: fear or laziness.

I know the bible stories from a lifetime of exposure. I still have not read the thing, although I am obviously aware of the passages, books, and the story of how the Bible came to exist. And frankly, now that I know about its development, the history behind it and in it, and how distorted and fraudulent and weak it is, I have no inclination to do so. I'd rather read Shakespeare. At least it's good literature, even if he didn't write it himself, and no one disputes that.

A waste of a mind is a tragedy. But, whatever blows your hair back, I guess.

Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by wildtimes

 

Why read fairy tales propagated by Islamic apologists and believe them as truth when the truth is in front of your face?

Islam didn't exist in the times of Jesus. The Greeks, that recall the Essene, were not Islamic.

However, one of the lost Disciples---Barnabas did speak a little on the theme.

en.wikipedia.org...

And the Vatican is all upset over one proposed Barnabas Book in Turkey:

www.inquisitr.com...


You are upset mainly because we don't fall for the mystery school's games to try making Jesus god, when he was just a regular human with a pious message to save the world from humans that like to play gods. Ah yes, it does take a little effort to open more than just one book and get a broader religion perspective.

Well Grounded Americans respect Thomas Jefferson and his Jefferson Bible, and via those insights we respect the US Constitutuion more than those using mystic non-sense.

You appear just one more sucked up by the anti-Christ.

Originally posted by MagnumOpus

Originally posted by Rustami
reply to post by MagnumOpus

 

Come over here, I have a nice bridge with no railings. Show me that Faith.

come get a piece a pressed wood pulp with some ink letters on it call it a religious, historical text book, about Egypt, Babylon, science or whatever (all written by man) and?...nevermind

There were just as many non-sense sellers running around back then as now. It was written does not substitute to common sense and reason.

and your writings are? studying some records/information/books/writings of man before today? any faith put into them? common sense??

I Don't buy Jesus as God-----that is blasphemy in most all religions. Jesus can't be the one that designed all the heavenly bodies, made the planets spin. None of that.

how were folks with that same view associated to Jesus? I believe He is an exact representation above any other obviously - "never perish" by an invisible Spirit with a mans audible voice definately has "ABOVE ALL" written all over it very loud and clear , seems like common sense-

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature
Colossians1

but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Hebrews1

Show Jesus to the world, so everyone sees tangeble person that checks out, or we'll just see it was written as pure nonsense. Intelligenct people don't work on Faith, science will help. No crazy miracles will do.

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him.
1Corinthian7

So, you have you views-----those views I do not share or approve.

There is no way that I will meet you in the middle, or elsewhere.

I am shocked!

(it's an old camping with some friends joke- thank God for those Park Rangers)

the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him
1Corinthians2
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It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
John 6

Such overstatement, such embellishment of the Prophet, I consider to be bad beliefs. Beliefs that mislead the world, cause serious religious divisions, and cause wars in the End Times.

such bologne! where to start? don't believe everything you read specially when an agenda is obvious -common sense stuff again ya know

You won't see me with any Crosses around me. I'll not be going to a church with too much money, very little common sense, or lost skills for critical thinking. Likewise, I won't be approving of your views either.

edit on 22-3-2012 by MagnumOpus because: Bad Bible nonsense

ok?? this is supposed to mean what? again not a view and again with the shocking

edit on 23-3-2012 by Rustami because: (no reason given)

Since some have gotten into the Gay issues and the Bible, it might be good to discuss if Bible perspectives can change with the history.

Obviously the Bible has a number of issues that pertain to health, and one of those items was don't eat Pork and in the old days there was a nasty disease associated with Pig. These days lots of people eat Pork and nobody gets the terrible disease. So, it must be that history can change the Bible's views and there are many other examples.

Another issue is the Gay issues, which various citations in the Bible tell is bad and various extreme preachers exclaim the same. When we check we find an association with the issues of Soddom and Gomorrah. And we know that this area sits beside the Dead Sea and is a high active geological fault zone that involves oil deposits. And we even see the typical issues of Sulfur (the Brimstone story et al), which is more volcanic type emissions. And well before all these highly noticable Earth Fault zone issues there would come various toxic emissions normally associated with such activty that alter human health and play havok with enzymes, and interfere with hormonal development.

If we look into the present times, we see that many environmental studies looking at toxic pollutants check the ration of male to female species in the natural areas affected. So alteration of sex hormones and sexual development is logically associted with toxic emissions be they from natural effects or those of industrial emissions.

With many parts of the world getting out of control with industrial poisons and emissions, one must suspect these effects alter man in some fashion. One of the most dangerous of industrial emissions happens from industry and from volcanic/techtonic fault zone effects and this poison is fluorine or fluoride compounds. Fluoride compounds are out of control in the environment and food chain and fluoride are the most potent chemical poison to alter enzymes production and set the body up for additional rise of other poisons.

There is a Bible Passage that speaks to the issues of keeping the body clean of toxic materials, and it appears here in the US we have violated that a hundred times over and nobody knows what is happening due to synergisms from a hundred different toxic sources entering the body.

However, from the Biblical stories it appears the volcanic area of Soddom and Gomorrah appears to have produced and an environmental induced increased issue of Gay concerns for that area. So, does one suspect environmental issues for Soddom and Gomorrah, there is no doubt.

So, if one digs more deeply one gets into the Gay populations associations with the HIV issues that happened recently. Here, when one studies that effect one finds that folks that have low manganese levels can't resist HIV transmission, because manganese blocks the reverse transcription of the HIV and keeps it from infecting the body. Another association to make it that increased fluorine in the body upsets the levels of these trace metals in the body and may well the involved in not only the rates of HIV transmissions, but also the sexual hormone offsets connected with sexual maturity factors.

This is interesting because this had a one two association, as the fluoride upsets in the sexual maturity and hormone process then appears to potentiate the susceptabilty for HIV infections or the loss of imunity. It gets even worse if we go beyond the issues of just HIV and study the effects of Alzheimers and Dimentia, as were we find issues of manganese plaques in the brains of humans and animals, as the body is using excessive amounts of Manganese to make the enzyme Mn-SOD to fight the oxidative stress factors in the brain. So, even more suggesting for environmental causation.

And in the case of the Bible's warnings about keeping the body clean and treating it like a temple, there is considerable merit that this is a good idea and the ideal behind environmentalism. It does suggest that the issues of Gay factors these days are higher due to the industrial effects of toxic emissions gone wild and that our own failings to halt these enzyme and hormone disrupting substances is the issue. Yet, many of the churches and wrong religious dogma want to attack the victims of what appears to be environmental related factors. It appears the Churches should recognize they are all at issues for allowing environmentally induced factors to set off HIV in the populations, and allowing various enzyme and hormone factors to be affected, and they've not done the thing of being good stewards toward the environment, nor being good servants toward those that have been affected in various ways due to the church gang being too slow to understand the cause and effect associations with these issues.

Soddom and Gomorrah is a standing Biblical example that environmental toxic emissions affect enzyme and hormone factors in the humans of these old times, and things haven't changed since. However, science is showing us the how and the why and as for the case of Pork and learning those issues, all the religious gang seeking to jump on Gay folks need to learn they need to first jump on themselves before anyone else.

Originally posted by Soulece
you lose the game if you pick a side.

I like that, maybe you don't lose, you just don't advance in the game.

Isn't it interesting that one can take a fat man, dress him up in a suit, park him in a pulpit, and tell him to make some money telling stories to the ignorant masses and they toss him some coins. Talk about the Greatest Show on Earth, it was not just PT Barnum that found suckers.

I think we know where PT Barnum learned his craft.

Jesus didn't shake people down for money to do his benevolent teaching and ministries. But the Fat Man's fantastic religion production games want lots of coins. Painting fantasies in men's minds is easy it appears.

Most highly intelligent folks, like Thomas Jefferson, and many others know Jesus wasn't God and he never claimed to be one. Jesus just wanted to be a Messiah to save people from believing in silly imaginary old themes of god.

Look around the world and the most dominate religion says the same thing as Jefferson, Jesus was a great moral teacher and a prophet, but not god. It is a impossible for intelligent people to imagine Jesus was the guy that created all the planets and was the inventor of mother nature. But, we know the unintelligent now.

Yet, in US Churches there is this cult that says have Faith, this little fella back when was and is god. But, they can't find him doing anything or introduce him. Get a few fat guys, dress em up, print them a few old mysticism books and suddenly they got themselves some imagined god.

Then, sounds like they forgot to read the big book they all prescibe, because what Jefferson noticed, more than half the planet noticed also. Jesus still isn't god:

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www.islam-guide.com...

The Bible Denies the Divinity of Jesus

Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10).

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“God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever.” (1 Timothy 6:15-16).

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Silly Christians, it tells what Jefferson, Islam, all the people that can read, all the people that know deception when they hear it all knew the truth all along right from the Bible. Jesus was never god.

Give me Thomas Jefferson any old day, as he was wise and spoke the truth. Good men don't get lost in crazy fantasy.

I can't seem to find any Jefferson's in churches, as the Faith people all believe in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. The Christian Church is now the training camp for PT Barnum productions.


Could it be that Jefferson and Islam teach the same thing, and the Bible teaches it also. And the crazy people are the ones following the fat man in the pulpit drumming up coins... Darn that money is the root of evil that Christians worship

Nobody's found god in anything but the Mother Nature theme, and going beyond that theme seems to become some mental illness where fanciful illusions become reality.

No wonder many people see these brand of Christians as crazy people... Now we know why the US is having a disaster----nobody tells the truth anymore.

If Christians are that gullible they be easy marks to rip off for wars, giving up control of banks, taking over by corporations. These Christian's will by anything wrapped in the cloth of imagined and fabricated church miracles.


Everyone in the world knows there is no women that got pregnant without the male's help.

Everyone in the world knows Jesus was just a Human that knew the truth on religion.

Everyone knows there is no God other than just plain old Mother Nature's organization and intelligent design in a few places, except for man's minds that needs some faked up concept for god.


If the US gets distroyed due to mass insanity, we know the group responsible. The ones than can't read and can't even follow the higher intelligent truth.


This must be where the end times led as unintelligent men eat food depleted of beneficial minerals essential for heath, they drink up a fluoride poison in their water that was common to the Ark's poison methods, their IQ is now less than in the early 1900s, the smart countries send their dumb kids to America to learn, America gives away its economic properity to those Jesus warned against as tyrants, and America fakes up wars in these end times to extend their lies for money.

Could it be that what sustains Christianty's Faith is ignorance of the masses that outnumbers the intelligent by huge amounts. Could it be the secret of the end-times is to stamped these ignorant types into wars, depopulate the planet, leaving only the few intelligent that really understood the deceptions of the bible and didn't buy the fantasy tales of Jesus being god.

Onward Christian Soldiers, become the cannon fodder for arms dealers, become the whipping stock of this last great war raising up fake issues, and distract the world from the truth a few more seconds until the end arrives.

Finding a more truthful Bible. The Jefferson Bible is online:

www.beliefnet.com...

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One can also buy a Jefferson Bible Hardcopy:


www.amazon.com...

Religion in America [gained] something unique from Jefferson. . . . His Jesus was a figure fitted for the Enlightenment, rational but not divine.—Gustav Niebuhr, New York Times


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I'll just let the following speak for itself. Lots of little copy and paste folks----that don't know fakers.


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Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters


Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and the New York Times bestselling author of 'Misquoting Jesus' and 'Jesus, Interrupted'. His latest book, 'Forged: Writing in the Name of God -- Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are', is now available from HarperOne.

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Most people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all, sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that the Bible is full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or James -- knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery.

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It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to lie in order to tell the truth. But we today can at least evaluate their claims and realize just how human, and fallible, they were. They were creatures of their time and place. And so too were their teachings, lies and all.

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Perhaps this is a signal that Peter was not well respected.

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Bronze sculpture hidden in the Vatican treasury of the Cock, symbol of St. Peter. Inscription reads "Savior of the World."

"Peter" is not only "the rock" but also "the cock" or penis, as the word is used as slang to this day. As Walker says, "The cock was also a symbol of Saint Peter, whose name also meant a phallus or male principle (pater) and a phallic pillar (petra). Therefore, the cock's image was often placed atop church towers."

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