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Originally posted by Wolf321
reply to post by MissPoovey
And with the exception I mentioned before, a woman engaging in sex is making her choice. Just because the odds are in her favor (for no pregnancy) she needs to accept the outcome after the deed.
Originally posted by MissPoovey
There are alot of other outcomes from sex.
Would you believe that an STD should be lived with because it could be a natural outcome of intercourse?
Would you live with the other outcomes? Crabs, lice, even the flu and common cold?
Or is birth the only outcome from sex you believe should be endured? While the outcomes that effect YOUR life can be taken care of medically? Just not a womans?
And in your world does the male impregnator have any duties? Or should he be expected to enjoy his violent assault and live happily ever after?
Originally posted by Wolf321
Originally posted by MissPoovey
There are alot of other outcomes from sex.
Would you believe that an STD should be lived with because it could be a natural outcome of intercourse?
Would you live with the other outcomes? Crabs, lice, even the flu and common cold?
Or is birth the only outcome from sex you believe should be endured? While the outcomes that effect YOUR life can be taken care of medically? Just not a womans?
And in your world does the male impregnator have any duties? Or should he be expected to enjoy his violent assault and live happily ever after?
Do you honestly equate an STD to a new human life? You thinking allowing a human life to grow inside is the same as a virus or bacteria that only destroys the infected? Do you consider pregnancy an infection??
As to your later questions, yes the father is as obligated as the mother. Are you calling sex a violent assault? Because my exception for abortion that was mentioned was rape. Of course, I do consider incest or to save the life of the mother the only two other exceptions. Convenience is never one.
The idea that one must remain a single mother, or parents must raise a kid when they don't have the means as a reason is barbaric IMO, when so many want to adopt.
You thinking allowing a human life to grow
Originally posted by LaughingatHumanity
reply to post by Azadok
That Ipad was built by Chinese hands, It was built by a tortured soul who has very few choices. Work as a human slave to make barely enough money to survive or perish. Can this person really ever hope to know a normal life? Are you aware of the practice of the Chinese to force abortions on female factory workers rather than see them slow down or lose them? That's your choice, slave away to make garbage for the first world or perish.
Who do you directly support with your purchase? You support the largest abortion factory on the planet. A place where the extremes of poverty coupled with intense competition for scant resources see's so many die. It also reinforces the popular practice of selective abortion, what use is a female baby when you are allowed but one and you are so impoverished that you either secure a male heir to support you or you nearly ruin your chances at survival once your body is worn and broken from countless hours of labor.
Yes I can easily draw a direct parallel between the choices you make as a consumer and it's impact on humanity. You may falsely believe you are not culpable but you are, it's easy to pretend that you have nothing to do with the socioeconomic tragedy that occurs half a world away but you do.
Please do keep speaking of dogma again though, it is the greatest escape from personal responsibility ever known.edit on 7-3-2012 by LaughingatHumanity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Why be gender specific if gender is not the topic
Originally posted by Wolf321
reply to post by windword
I would agree if by force we mean held down and not allowed to stab at her own insides to abort the child. However, I think that the whole process of allowing licensed medical professionals to perform abortions should be prohibited. *
If a woman wants to take the risk of getting pregnant, no matter how small, then she should be willing to take the risk of a back alley or self abortion.
*with the exceptions that I have already stated.edit on 7-3-2012 by Wolf321 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wolf321
Originally posted by MissPoovey
There are alot of other outcomes from sex.
Would you believe that an STD should be lived with because it could be a natural outcome of intercourse?
Would you live with the other outcomes? Crabs, lice, even the flu and common cold?
Or is birth the only outcome from sex you believe should be endured? While the outcomes that effect YOUR life can be taken care of medically? Just not a womans?
And in your world does the male impregnator have any duties? Or should he be expected to enjoy his violent assault and live happily ever after?
Do you honestly equate an STD to a new human life? You thinking allowing a human life to grow inside is the same as a virus or bacteria that only destroys the infected? Do you consider pregnancy an infection??
As to your later questions, yes the father is as obligated as the mother. Are you calling sex a violent assault? Because my exception for abortion that was mentioned was rape. Of course, I do consider incest or to save the life of the mother the only two other exceptions. Convenience is never one.
The idea that one must remain a single mother, or parents must raise a kid when they don't have the means as a reason is barbaric IMO, when so many want to adopt.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Firstly it implies a men vs. women topic
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Why be gender specific if gender is not the topic but having a right on one's own body.
Why be gender specific if gender is not the topic but having a right on one's own body. They can refer to both pregnant women and gays at the same time.
Are you for real with this question, or did you just want to start another abortion thread because they go on for days?