hypocrisy, actually, darkness of soul, the left is silent about Bill Maher's language

Originally posted by BetterCallSaul
Am I missing something? Doesn't the woman want her college to cover the expense? What does that have to do with us, the taxpayers, covering her birth control?

...Also, by that Rush's logic weren't we paying for him to do Oxy back in the day? This is by no means a personal attack on him. Drugs have hit my family hard in the past and I think anyone kicking the stuff is great. I'm just saying don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Hi,
The thread is not about cost to taxpayers or Rush's problem with prescription drugs in the past. It's to show the ridiculous objection of the left when their vulgar language is ten times worse.

Liberals want to "deflect" by taking the spotlight off of Obama's socialist mandate and his horrible record. They've come up with a way to scare voters saying Republicans will take away a woman's right to contraception. This is a lie.

Leftists are upset at the word "slut" but send Sandra Fluke up to Capitol Hill crying about affording protection for premarital sex! What? That's crazy. God doesn't change, unrepented of, the sin of fornication and abortion are both damning.

Rush explained so well on his show. More than ever, with technology, we see the evil of abortion so democrats are making contraception the issue.
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March 2, 2012

Rush Limbaugh ~

"Now, what's happening here politically with the elevation of contraception here to such prominence in the national debate? To me, it is evidence that the Democrats and the left have encountered utter political and moral failure on their decades-long abortion push.
It just isn't the winning issue for them it used to be.
It is not the issue. If it were, this wouldn't be about contraception. This would be about abortion. Follow me on this. This is key politically. The Democrats need these planks to scare voters about the Republican Party. If abortion were still the winning issue that the Democrats think that it used to be, Sandra Fluke would be testifying about that. Sandra Fluke would be upset that abortion is not being paid for at Georgetown, a Catholic Jesuit university. But she's not, is she? She's testifying about contraception. "Contraception" is the replacement plank for "abortion" in the Democrat Party platform. That's what's happening here, in a political sense."...

www.rushlimbaugh.com...

So why did I have to make this post. Why didnt one of you people who are so outraged over what Limbaugh said post this? why isnt it all over the nightly news?

Oh wait.............

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Maher now Defends Rush. What?

Tweet...
www.breitbart.com...

Despite Limbaugh's apology, the left continues to attack Limbaugh and drive away sponsors of his show with such intensities to invoke the public's suspicion.

If it really was all about obtaining an apology, apology given, so why the continued drama? Because maybe it's not about an apology, it's about driving Limbaugh off the air. Maher's defense of Limbaugh is recognition of this: He himself has uttered some incredible four-letter descriptions of Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann. His defense is that he's an entertainer. And? Ridicule is the best weapon; comedy is deadlier than dry-fisking policy.

Perhaps Maher senses something is in the water brought on by this manufactured narrative. He himself has been guilty of the very thing for which Limbaugh is being crucified. If Limbaugh can be gotten, everyone can be gotten. The reigns of power can change hand and the weapons once used against your opponents can be used against you.

www.breitbart.com...

dailycaller.com...

Before declining TheDC’s question about Maher and The Roots, Obama had declined to answer a related question about political double standards.

That question, from a USA Today reporter, cited Limbaugh’s insults and asked if there was a double standard when liberal commentators have made “provocative or distasteful statements and there hasn’t been such an outrage.”

Obama declined to answer, prompting TheDC to repeat the question, citing both the band and the HBO host.

The president again declined to answer — saying only “Thank you” — before inviting a question from another reporter about Democratic claims that Republcians ware waging a “war on women.”

You all are being suckered.

Gee, I wonder why?

Its not exactly news, is it? As much as the left wants to make excuses for their behavior, everyone knows that there's a double standard and that they're just as guilty. It doesn't matter who does it or who the target is, lies are lies and its just as wrong when a liberal does it as it is a conservative.

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It would be nice if Obama gave back Maher's million dollar Super Pac donation. That's what a leader is supposed to do when confronted with the glaring truth of a double standard and a ridiculous Media Bias.

Won't happen.

Originally posted by PotKettleDemocrats appeal to the least educated and myopic elements of our population, especially minorities. Unless of course you consider our inner cities to be the mecca of innovation and intellect, I wouldn't be so quick to disparage Republicans if I were you. Your infatuation with Maher is adorable and sweet in an awww shucks kind of way, but I certainly would not attribute your Maher reverence to any sort of higher intellect that you think you may have over the typical Rush listener. One could question the intellect of someone who attributes absolute significance to a relative quality, ie effective rhetoric or wicked sense of humor, if they really wanted to.

So you are saying dumb blacks are dumber than dumb whites?

One can infer the intelligence of an audience by the relative intelligence of the material employed by an entertainer. By that standard Maher's audience is far more intelligent that Rush's.

Originally posted by PotKettleI realize that those on the left commonly rely on this appeal to authority fallacy in their arguments almost as much as they rely on the race card but it really gets tiring where someone of average intellect feels the need to bring up his/her supposed educational superiority whenever it is obvious that their argument has no merit. Here, you use the straw man argument that Rush is important to Republicans to justify your belief that the left is not being hypocritical with regards to their Fluke outrage. Rush, like Bill, is an entertainer and as such is as important to Republicans as Bill is to Democrats. I also like how you infer that Republicans are not able to make informed decisions. Sadly, this unfounded pseudo-intellectual air of superiority is typical to those on the left.

What, did they give you a chapter on critical thinking in high school civics class?

Originally posted by Paschar0
I think the reason for the "double standard" is simple. Republicans are constantly taking the moral high ground and when they make "obscene" comments, or get caught in bathrooms, or basically show what huge Hippocrates so many of them really are, it's a "bigger deal" than when a "godless leftie" does the same thing.

edit on 6-3-2012 by Paschar0 because: (no reason given)

That's exactly how I saw it as well.

Originally posted by colbe

Rush Limbaugh ~

"Now, what's happening here politically with the elevation of contraception here to such prominence in the national debate?

But it's the REPUBLICANS who have elevated contraception to prominence in the national debate!

First of all they should have kept on message with the economy.

But barring that, they should have contained the discussion to "There's nothing wrong with using birth control but Catholics shouldn't be forced to pay for it" (which is a somewhat legit point.)

Instead they let the narrative shift to talk of contraception being evil, putting aspirin between your knees and calling women who use contraception "sluts"--- very much a losing proposition with independent female voters.

Originally posted by KTATS

Originally posted by Paschar0
I think the reason for the "double standard" is simple. Republicans are constantly taking the moral high ground and when they make "obscene" comments, or get caught in bathrooms, or basically show what huge Hippocrates so many of them really are, it's a "bigger deal" than when a "godless leftie" does the same thing.

edit on 6-3-2012 by Paschar0 because: (no reason given)

That's exactly how I saw it as well.

There are plenty of double standards all around.

As you say, the Republicans supposedly taking the high road in the culture wars as well as being pro-business yet now you have the ditto heads dragging Limbaugh's former sponsors through the fire with his encouragement just because they were forced to make business decisions to not associate with very controversial shock jock material.

Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by colbe

Rush Limbaugh ~

"Now, what's happening here politically with the elevation of contraception here to such prominence in the national debate?

But it's the REPUBLICANS who have elevated contraception to prominence in the national debate!

First of all they should have kept on message with the economy.

But barring that, they should have contained the discussion to "There's nothing wrong with using birth control but Catholics shouldn't be forced to pay for it" (which is a somewhat legit point.)

Instead they let the narrative shift to talk of contraception being evil, putting aspirin between your knees and calling women who use contraception "sluts"--- very much a losing proposition with independent female voters.

This is not true. Liberal George Stephanopoulis asked Mitt Romney about contraception in a debate held in January. I care so I'll say it
again...l

Contraception is evil, look at it's fruit, physical and spiritual.
God knows what is good and what isn't. He's already revealed it
but you do not believe.

An "aspirin between the knees" refers to abstaining.

Do not wait until your "particular judgment" to agree with God on
Contraception.

There is so much stupid in this thread I am not even sure where to begin.

It is not a double standard! That would require two similar incidences which these are not.
Bill Maher expressed his personal opinion about Sarah Palin. I am not Sarah Palin. I am not insulted by what anyone anywhere says about someone not me.
Rush attacked WOMEN. I am a women. I am now insulted. He also made up all kinds of crap to do it with. How the hell does he surmise he is paying for her birth control? She has private insurance. Am I paying for her birth control too? How so? He went on to characterize her as having too much sex to be able to afford the amount of birth control she needs. Um...women take the same amount of birth control no matter how slutty or celibate we are.
He did it first? Are there any adults left on the right? Rush does something bad and gets called out for it and Rush and all of you dittoheads first response is "Yeah well but but Bill Maher did it too!!!!!" Seriously? Does that still work? How many of you have been arrested, pulled over, got in trouble at work or with a spouse and SUCCESSFULLY got out of it by pointing out someone else did it too? Anyone?
"It is all the Left's Fault!" Oh I forgot, you guys are the party of personal responsibility.
"Liberals are forcing advertisers to abandon Rush!" Back that up. Then tell me all about the free market again. No one is forcing any of these companies to do anything but apparently you all wish someone would?
My head hurts too much from reading all this and getting this far.

I personally think it's unrealistic to expect positive behaviour from media talking heads on either side of the aisle. They're not there to be polite; quite the opposite, in fact. They're there to get attention.

I consider Bill Maher a gifted comedian, personally; although with that said, like many comedians, during his attempts to make his audience laugh, he often makes statements which are in extremely questionable taste.

Rush Limbaugh, on the other hand, is someone who I consider to be a mindless, savage, warmongering, porcine, subhuman fascist redneck.

Then again, of course, that's only my individual political bias. Your own mileage may vary.

Originally posted by colbe

This is not true. Liberal George Stephanopoulis asked Mitt Romney about contraception in a debate held in January. I care so I'll say it
again...l

Contraception is evil, look at it's fruit, physical and spiritual.
God knows what is good and what isn't. He's already revealed it
but you do not believe.

An "aspirin between the knees" refers to abstaining.

Do not wait until your "particular judgment" to agree with God on
Contraception.

So basically because I reject your notion of what is right or wrong. You would allow me to lose my ability to reproduce in the future or perhaps lose my life due to the lack of proper medication to treat my condition. What a loving and understanding God you follow, is he the Lord of Darkness?

It's becoming more and more apparent that people with fanatical views on religion are just straight bonkers. The inability to use reason, intelligence and independent thought, a God given gift according to their own beliefs, is just astouding.

I consider myself an extremely tolerate man to other's views but when those views start to creep into politics, legislation and start to morph into hate of non believers that's when enough is enough. You fanatical Christians are no different from radical Muslims or radical Jews; all are willing to kill entire nations or condem entire populations because of a warped interpretation of a book more than 2000 years old. Even the stuff you preech makes no sense at all to the material that you study.

Apologies to the more moderate people of religion, this rant is pointed strictly to the radial/fanatical followers.

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
It's becoming more and more apparent that people with fanatical views on religion are just straight bonkers. The inability to use reason, intelligence and independent thought, a God given gift according to their own beliefs, is just astouding.

I consider myself an extremely tolerate man to other's views but when those views start to creep into politics, legislation and start to morph into hate of non believers that's when enough is enough. You fanatical Christians are no different from radical Muslims or radical Jews; all are willing to kill entire nations or condem entire populations because of a warped interpretation of a book more than 2000 years old. Even the stuff you preech makes no sense at all to the material that you study.

Apologies to the more moderate people of religion, this rant is pointed strictly to the radial/fanatical followers.

Don't be bragging about yourself Chewy (cute avatar name).

Religion is man-made. There is one faith and it is God given. Islam
is an example of a non-Christian religion.

If you looked at history, God is very pleased when people are faithful,
it's not the opposite, we can know, there is one divine plan revealed by God, it's logical, so there is one Truth.

Please explain, where did your "reason and intelligence" come from if not from God?

From this day forward, read Catholic writing, the Douay-Rheims Bible,

www.drbo.org...

the Catechism, the lives of the saints, Search Catholic Apologetics on
questions of faith.

Originally posted by colbe
If you looked at history, God is very pleased when people are faithful,

Um...excuse my impertinence but you seem to have mixed up the words 'history' and 'dogma'. As much as you really, really wish it to be so, they aren't interchangeable.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by colbe
If you looked at history, God is very pleased when people are faithful,

Um...excuse my impertinence but you seem to have mixed up the words 'history' and 'dogma'. As much as you really, really wish it to be so, they aren't interchangeable.

Look up the meaning of dogma.

If you looked at "dogma", dogma is a divine truth to be believed.


blessings,

colbe

Originally posted by colbe
Religion is man-made. There is one faith and it is God given. Islam
is an example of a non-Christian religion.

This is semantic, emotive garbage, I'm sorry.

As a religious system, Christianity can be very easily discredited, using its' own measure. The man who gave his name to your religion, and who in practice most of you ignore almost completely, said (among other things) that a tree can be judged by its' fruits; that is, that the level of integrity of a given thing, can be judged by its' effects.

If you apply that heuristic to mainstream (Pauline) Christianity, there really isn't much left that needs to be said; other than perhaps citing even a vague estimate of the body count.

And all I can say to this is, "Bravo, DNC! We are no longer talking about high gas prices, unemployment, wars, deficits, and foreclosures. No, now we are arguing over Rush Limbaugh's statement over a woman who wants free birth control. Again, bravo, you have wagged the dog."

It's no longer about jobs and the economy, it's about women's health. If you vote Republican, women will die. Genius, pure genius!