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Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
If you would be honest, then you would KNOW that Ibn Ishaq HIMSELF declared that he does not corroborate the stories he gathers - he simply gathered them without any further evidence or validation.
WHo is to say those sources were reliable?
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
It is the same with any other historical data. Or do you want me to believe all the apocrypha of the Bible now - with outrageous and fantastic stories about Jesus and/or other prophets.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Yet you expect me believe the outrageous and fantastic stories contained in the Koran.
Originally posted by Danbones
any Muslim sources there ...?
you know for balance?
Originally posted by Danbones
stalin and the zionsts killed 35- 60 million million christians in the USSR
some 70 million christians killed each other in WW2
here in Canada christian churches took tax dollars to commit genocide on Children
don't get me started on christian priests or vatican banks and their sense of community responsibility
violent Jihad makes up
• 24% of the Medinan Koran,
• 21% of the Hadith and
• 67% of the Sira.
www.cspipublishing.com...
Originally posted by milkyway12
Do i behead some one who does not convert to Christianity? Nope , move on my way.
It was on the 3rd March 1924 the Islamic Khilafah State in Istanbul, Turkey was formally destroyed by Mustapha Kemal in collaboration with imperial Britain. It was the day the Muslim Ummah as one Ummah and one state lost her leadership, the Khalifah. The Khilafah State was replaced by countless statelets spanning the entire Muslim world to be ruled by puppet rulers subservient to the agendas of the European powers. From then on, the Muslim Ummah has been governed by kings and dictators who have held onto their thrones by brute force, repression and terror. These puppet rulers have been there to guard the interests of the Western powers in our lands, keeping the ummah divided and ensuring the pillage of our resources.
We assert, without compromise, that it is only by the establishment of the Khilafah State, that the practical solutions of Islam can once again provide a real alternative for the entire world. The ‘Clash of Civilisations’ first discussed by Samuel Huntington is real and inevitable. We endorse the notion that there is a civilisational difference between Islam and the West and that the problem for the West is Islam and the problem for Islam is the West. By arguing this, we also maintain Islam, as a universal ideology, came for all of humankind, Muslim and Non-Muslims, and as such it is only Islam that serves as a Rahma (mercy) for all mankind. As the western ideology dominates the world today, the only challenge to it must come from Islam.
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
he Qur'an says a thing, and then that thing gets corroborated by history and/or science - then you can accept that saying of the Qur'an as true.
33:26 He also brought down their allies among the people of the scripture from their secure positions, and threw terror into their hearts. Some of them you killed, and some you took captive.
33:27 He made you inherit their land, their homes, their money, and lands you had never stepped on. God is in full control of all things.
"The apostle of Allah imprisoned the Qurayza in Medina while trenches were dug in the market-place. Then he sent for the men and had their heads struck off so that they fell in the trenches. They were brought out in groups, and among them was Kab, the chief of the tribe. In number, they amounted to six or seven hundred, although some state it to have been eight or nine hundred. All were executed. One man turned to his people and said, 'It matters not! By God's will, the children of Israel were destined for this massacre!’ Then he seated himself and his head was struck off...
...Now the apostle distributed the property of the Banu Qurayza, as well as their women and children, to the Muslims, reserving one-fifth for himself. Every horseman received three shares, one for himself and two for his steed, and every foot soldier one share. There were thirty-six horses present on the day of the Qurayza. The apostle dispatched an emissary to Najd with the prisoners, to barter them as slaves in exchange for horses and camels. The apostle of Allah selected one of the Jewish women, Rayhana, for himself, and she remained with him as his slave until she died. He had suggested marriage to her, that she should wear the veil (to separate her from all other persons, as his wives did), but she replied, 'Rather allow me to remain thy slave; it will be more easy for me, and for thee.'"
The Life of Muhammad (768 AD)
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by torqpoc
Just to play devil's advocate here. If you look back at all human history - its pretty much war and rape. Its called ... Human History.
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by Azadok
i died and went to the light and at the end was Jesus
No, you did not die, and no, Jesus was not there. Your mind was playing tricks on you, a well known fact happening to persons in a NDE.
Tears of Jihad
These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.
....Jews
Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power.
This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by torqpoc
Most wars have been fought over Economics ....
According to the traditional Jewish interpretation of the Bible, Israel's character as the chosen people is unconditional as it says in Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."
Although the Torah also says, "Now therefore, if you will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then you shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people
To those who win the victory, who continue to the end to do what I want, I will give the same authority that I received from My Father: I will give them authority over the nations, to rule them with an iron rod and break them to pieces like clay pots"(Revelation 2:26-27)