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Iran's Grand Ayatollahs - 'Earth Belongs to Muslims and the End is Near

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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
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Students at Tehran University 1971


Students at Tehran University 2004


What a difference 25 years of Islamic rule make.


Cmon do we really need to bomb Iran , it produces some seriously hot women !
if thats not a good enough excuse then what is ?

(that chic from 1971 is tasty )




posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by Azadok

You know why ! When islams Mahadi returns Sunni and Shia will unite and every Jew and Christian living in Muslim lands will be forced to convert to Islam or be beheaded , their holy books are very clear on this matter . It will start in the Islamic countries and they will try to spread that faith by the sword throughout the world.


This is technically not true. They tried to spread it by the sword but they couldn't hack it (so to speak), so now they do it by mass invasion and childbirth instead.

With help from the PC brigade and corrupt/naive politicians they might even succed.
But not while I'm alive. And I know I'm not alone.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by korathin
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I have a solution to the problem of muslims desire to conquer the world: Neutron bomb. Israel can have Egypt, Arabian Peninsula, Syria, Lebanon, southern Turkey and South west Iraq. Greece can have the rest of Turkey while Sub Saharan Africans can move to North Africa to repopulate the region.

Iran, Eastern Iraq, Pakistan can go to India(as well as chunks of Indonesia), while Russia and China shares the recently depopulated ares of Central Asia(and China given a chunk of Indonesia as well).


End result= World Peace and never a risk of muslims conquering the world.


Muslims do not wish to conquer anything.

Yet, despite your sick desires, you will not destroy Islam. On the contrary, it will prevail above all other religions. That is God's promise in the Bible and in the Qur'an and you can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi

Originally posted by korathin
reply to post by FlyersFan
 

I have a solution to the problem of muslims desire to conquer the world: Neutron bomb. Israel can have Egypt, Arabian Peninsula, Syria, Lebanon, southern Turkey and South west Iraq. Greece can have the rest of Turkey while Sub Saharan Africans can move to North Africa to repopulate the region.

Iran, Eastern Iraq, Pakistan can go to India(as well as chunks of Indonesia), while Russia and China shares the recently depopulated ares of Central Asia(and China given a chunk of Indonesia as well).


End result= World Peace and never a risk of muslims conquering the world.



Muslims do not wish to conquer anything.

Yet, despite your sick desires, you will not destroy Islam. On the contrary, it will prevail above all other religions. That is God's promise in the Bible and in the Qur'an and you can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.



True indeed.
edit on 28-2-2012 by ImaMuslim because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:03 AM
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Muslims do not wish to conquer anything.

Yet, despite your sick desires, you will not destroy Islam. On the contrary, it will prevail above all other religions. That is God's promise in the Bible and in the Qur'an and you can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.


Can you not see the contradiction?

And with posts like this don't you understand why people are suspicious of Islam and it's adherents?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
so what should we do about it? What do you suggest? Should we take these words seriously, because after all that's all it is just words, or just take it with a grain of salt,...


- Be aware that it is being said.
- It can't be 'propaganda' if the people actually said it. They are PROUD of their words.


 


The insight i am gleaning from the article is that all the protestations from Iran that their 'nuclear' programs are All peaceful is really suspect...

here, it is expressly stated that the Islamic Revolution of 1979, and the two successive leaders of that nation had a belief system that they were the instruments to bring world chaos and thus the Mahdi, 12th Imam

by extension, just using a 10th of my brain power...one way to cause global chaos would be to be in possession of deliverable nuclear weapons...in tandem with chemical, biological weapons...or any combination of these WMDs
that to me is not reaching an extreme conclusion, it is reaching an obvious conclusion

but bombing Iran into the stone-age is not the only resolution



 

 



but-> in another Thread... the OP explains that the Supreme Leader had earlier outlawed Nukes:


Originally posted by woodwardjnr

The Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued the Fatwa that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam and that the Islamic Republic of Iran shall never acquire these weapons.




www.ww4report.com...

Funny how we never hear about this in the press. But this statement was made by the Ayatollah in August of 2005.



but, still again, there is a belief system which says...in Islam, lying and telling untruths is justifiable...

so we are back to square one !

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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:12 AM
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Dear FF,
Did you really make a post about "news" stating you have the right to post news without it being propaganda when your sources are the daily caller and catholic.org?

Seriously?

News is Reuters, Times etc... anything else is farking rubbish claptrap.

T



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:50 AM
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Whereas Muslim translated=one who submits
islam =submission

what they (optitle)say is true but not in the ways the ways the foolhardy would conceive it
even to perception itself the wrongdoers forced injustices



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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The 12'ver regime was engineered into power by the NWO (Bernard Lewis, Brezinski etc)..........because it was known that the one and only solution to their 12'ver mandates was to engineer WWIII and get the Israelis to deploy the Sampson Option against the Sunni Arabs.


Whether Israel attacks Iran first or not - we are still going to see the M.E get nuked and Europe collapsed via jihad invasion, civil war.

They have manufactured the problem via PC multiculturalism - that the 'solution' as awful as it will be - is now more preferable than the problem.

Basically we are all buggered and we need a miracle!



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 05:56 AM
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Earth belongs to the Muslims? Really now, that's brilliant. Who owned the Earth prior to the 7th century?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by Patrol
First you talk about Ayatolah being an evil man by using very sleazy quotes

I posted EXACTLY what he said. If they are 'sleazy quotes' it's only because what he said was sleazy.
Actually .. what he said was bat-crap crazy .... but you can use the term sleazy if you like.

and then you say, you made a bet about people's reactions.

Yep .. and I was right.

I wonder what is your motivation and/or a goal to demean religious leaders?

I don't have to 'demean religious leaders'. Their own words did it to themselves.
They are stuck in a 1200 A.D. mentality. And they are absolutely looooopy .. in an evil way.

I am a Canadian christian and this kind of posting would certainly qualify for trash can!

Where you are from and what your religion is ... that's all irrelevant to the conversation about
how the three Ayatollahs in Iran are 'Twelvers' and they, with all their influence and power, want
to make the entire world Muslim. But thank you so much for sharing.



edit on 2/28/2012 by FlyersFan because: typo



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Earth belongs to the Muslims?those who submit Really now, that's brilliant. Who owned the Earth prior to the 7th century?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:14 AM
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Off topic personal attack against the messenger without addressing the topic.


Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
He is a catholic fundamentalist who (ab)uses every opportunity to bash islam.

1 - I'm not a 'he'.
2 - I'm not a Catholic fundamentalist.
3 - Telling the truth and exposing what Islam leadership says isn't 'bashing Islam'. It's just telling the truth.


Notice how he "subtly" linked the word "contradiction" in the OP to a well known anti-islamic propaganda website full of FECES.

I didn't do it subtly .. I showed the contradiction very clearly and the website I linked to is correct.
The whackadoo Ayatollah said that after the world turns Muslim then the city of Qom will be the scientific capitol of the world. Considering the HUGE number of scientific errors in the Quran and how Muslims aren't allowed free speech to expose those errors, his statement about Qom being the 'scientific capitol' of the world is beyond absurd.

Funny how apologists for the leadership of Iran always ignore the BS coming out of Iran but then try to make those who expose it the 'bad guy'. Funny or sad. Maybe even both.


edit on 2/28/2012 by FlyersFan because: typo



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
Take their word seriously


And instead of a brave Khlaeefah commanding the Muslims to liberate occupied Muslim Lands and open new lands to Islam, the cowardly Americans, who flee from small groups of poorly armed Muslims, are commanding the Muslim soldiers of Pakistan to fight their crusade to occupy Afghanistan in the neighbouring tribal areas of Pakistan, pathetically trying to conceal the obvious truth by lying repeatedly, “its your war, its your war.”


www.hizb-ut-tahrir.org...

These sentiments are shared across the spectrum and not just expressed by the Ayatollahs.

I totally agree, these people are not kidding. We'll see what happens in the future but for now, knowing this is just another piece of the puzzle, a puzzle that you all are a part of.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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Seriously, I still don't understand what is the difference between this Grand Ayatollah Jafar Sobhani from Iran, and Rick Santorum from the United States.

Rick Santorum uses religious arguments in the political debate, saying that "Obama's agenda is not based on the Bible".

How can you be sure that Rick Santorum doesn't believe that "Jesus is coming" and "the Rapture is iminent"?

What if Rick Santorum wins the election and becomes the President? Should the world be afraid of that? Should the Russians and the Chinese take "preventive action" to stop that?



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by musashi9
Would the original started of this thread please help me out, I am trying to find your other threads were you post about Christian leaders spouting off the same rhetoric about Jesus and the Rapture.

Just use the search function and look for my posts and 'Rapture'. Mostly they were in the BTS (Below Top Secret) section. There are 8 years of my posts here ... so you have a lot of digging to do. But they are there. There aren't a bunch of Christian leaders calling for World War III to start so that Christ will return. But you will definately find me hammering away at the 'rapture cult'. Just do a little work with the search function ...

I would hate for people to think that you only do this about Iran because they can easily accuse you of war mongering.

Yeah, I'm sure you'd hate that.


ATTENTION PLEASE: Posting the information and the exact words these Ayatollahs made does NOT make the messenger the bad guy. It's the Ayatollahs who are the war mongers .. NOT the people discussing what the Ayatollahs say. Anyone who says otherwise has it backwards.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Yet, despite your sick desires, you will not destroy Islam. On the contrary, it will prevail above all other religions. That is God's promise in the Bible and in the Qur'an and you can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.

Lol. this came right after saying it's a religion of peace, haha.

But still, Islam seem to do a pretty good job destroying itself at the moment. If not by corrupted leaders slaughtering it's citizens, it's by practically begging western nations to attack them.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by tonycodes
When are we going to just start dealing only with the women of hese countries,

I'm thinking that would be splendid. First they'd have to be free of the men that hold them in
virtual captivity using religion as the weapon. But I'm thinking that after all those years of putting
up with them and all that entails ... they'd be a better bunch to deal with.



Originally posted by TheAnswerTo1984
Can we please stop the ignorant warmongering?

How exactly is reporting what the Ayatollahs said 'warmongering' on our part?
THEY are the ones who are being aggressive. WE are just discussing their aggression.


Originally posted by sapien82
You may simply be showing us a post about what the ayatollah has said , however you are really only providing fuel for a fire that others wont want to put out.

So ... because you think it could be used as fuel for a fire, we shouldn't discuss it? Hide it? Facts are facts. This story tells what the Ayatollahs have said. To stick our heads in the sand because some people may use it as a call to war ... that would not be a smart thing to do.


Besides you havent really offered much in ways of your own views on how this should be dealt with?

Besides .. why should I? Who says it has to be 'dealt with'? Who says I have to be the one to have an idea of what to do, if anything, about it? I'm reporting what they said. We are discussing it. This isn't a world think-tank that comes up with instant solutions to the problems of the world.
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posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Muslims do not wish to conquer anything.

This statement followed by the next ....

.... you will not destroy Islam. On the contrary, it will prevail above all other religions. That is God's promise in the Bible and in the Qur'an and you can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.

You just exposed yourself dude ... total contradiction.


BTW .. the Ayatollahs agree with you.
Another BTW ... the bible and the Qu'ran were written by men ... not God.
Yet Another BTW ... the bible doesn't say that Islam will be 'the religion'.



posted on Feb, 28 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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Removed post as you did respond..

T


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