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reply posted on 4-9-2004 @ 02:18 PM by Skibum
Originally posted by Loki
The Tomahawk Cruise missile, which is a long range ballistic missile, is the most commonly used missile in long range strikes against enemy encampments.

Below, you will see a link to a page. It is very possible to mistake one of these babys for a plane, especially if it's streaking past you at 500MpH.

And when most people think 'Missile', they think something that looks like a sidewinder. Small, with underpronounced fins. Not easy to mistake for a Plane.

But, for crying out loud, the Cruise has WINGS! I'm sure that people who were distracted at the time, and later told it was a plane are likely to say, "hey, that was a plane."


Link


Okay if you say so.
Its not like the hundreds of witnesses in the area don't know what passenger airplanes look like. This isn't some podunk area that might see an airplane once in a blue moon. There are MANY airplanes that fly around this area. Its not difficult to tell the difference between a cruise missile and a passenger jet. But if saying that hundreds of witnesses eyes are lying to them makes your interpretation of what happened work for you,so be it.
I can't help it if you WANT it to have been a missile that you will just brush aside testimony from many witnesses that will say it was an airplane. If you want to beleive the testimony of people who say they "heard something that sounded LIKE a missile" go ahead. I have yet to see a witness say "it definately WAS a missile". All I have seen is quotes taken out of context to fit some twisted individuals need to prove it was a missile.

Cruise missile stats
Length: 18 feet 3 inches (5.56 meters)
Diameter: 20.4 inches (51.81 cm)
Wing Span: 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 meters)


757 stats
Wing span 38.05m (124ft 10in), length 47.32m (155ft 3in), height 13.56m (44ft 6in). Wing area 185.3m2 (1994sq ft).

OH YEA I can really see how hundreds of people can mistake a cruise missile for a 757. They are almost exactly the same size and have a very similar profile....NOT

Its like mistaking my daughters barbie volkswagon for a greyhound bus.


reply posted on 4-9-2004 @ 02:33 PM by earthtone
Originally posted by Skibum
[Its like mistaking my daughters barbie volkswagon for a greyhound bus.






Funny how there is no commercial airliner though. Funny how this footage has the crucial frames missing. Notice the white aircraft? Whatever it is it is coming in at a very low trajectory. I just couldn't imagine a 757 coming in liek that. You have to watch the video(1st post of this thread) and it's quite clear that it is not a large plane.



reply posted on 4-9-2004 @ 02:37 PM by earthtone


That is a good still from the footage.

Question, Why did it takeso long to release these photo's and who released them?







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reply posted on 4-9-2004 @ 03:23 PM by Sauron
IMO,,I think it was a Global Hawk with a radio transmitter / receiver, in the pentagon.
Remote controlled buy someone in another aircraft, and the G.H. may have been equipped with a missile. How big are these Global Hawks?
they do look like airplanes to me.




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Question: When does anyone put a fire truck beside a helipad 2 hours before anyone is suppose to be there?


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Mother of All Lies About 9/11

Barbara Olson's "Phone Call" From Flight 77


This is a story about a little white lie that bred dozens of other little white lies, then hundreds of bigger white lies and so on, to the point where the first little white lie must be credited as the “Mother of All Lies” about events on 11 September 2001. For this was the little white lie that first activated the American psyche, generated mass loathing, and enabled media manipulation of the global population.

Without this little white lie there would have been no Arab Hijackers, no Osama Bin Laden directing operations from afar, and no “War on Terror” in Afghanistan and occupied Palestine. Clearly the lie was so clever and diabolical in nature, it must have been generated by the “Power Elite” in one of its more earthly manifestations. Perhaps it was the work of the Council on Foreign Relations, or the Trilateral Commission?

No, it was not. Though at the time the little white lie was flagged with a powerful political name, there was and remains no evidence to support the connection. Just like the corrupt and premature Lee Harvey Oswald story in 1963, there are verifiable fatal errors which ultimately prove the little white lie was solely the work of members of the media. Only they had access, and only they had the methods and means.

The little white lie was about Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator for CNN and wife of US Solicitor General Ted Olson. Now deceased, Mrs Olson is alleged to have twice called her husband from an American Airlines Flight 77 seat-telephone, before the aircraft slammed into the Pentagon. This unsubstantiated claim, reported by CNN remarkably quickly at 2.06 am EDT [0606 GMT] on September 12, was the solitary foundation on which the spurious “Hijacker” story was built.

Without the “eminent” Barbara Olson and her alleged emotional telephone calls, there would never be any proof that humans played a role in the hijack and destruction of the four aircraft that day. Lookalike claims surfaced several days later on September 16 about passenger Todd Beamer and others, but it is critically important to remember here that the Barbara Olson story was the only one on September 11 and. 12. It was beyond question the artificial “seed” that started the media snowball rolling down the hill.

And once the snowball started rolling down the hill, it artfully picked up Osama Bin Laden and a host of other “terrorists” on the way. By noon on September 12, every paid glassy-eyed media commentator in America was either spilling his guts about those “Terrible Muslim hijackers”, or liberating hitherto classified information about Osama Bin Laden. “Oh sure, it was Bin Laden,” they said blithely, oblivious to anything apart from their television appearance fees.more







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reply posted on 4-9-2004 @ 03:58 PM by earthtone
Originally posted by Sauron
How big are these Global Hawks?


Bigger than I expected.





have a look - p.s sorry about the crappy white line.




You can see that although the shapes are obviously both distorted through the images i have used, the actual shape and curve of the objects design in the CCTV footage does look the same. The distinct nose shape is there. The back landing gear is in the correct place. You can see the slight bulge underneath which the hawk has. Also the back fans out and gets large which is consistent with the jets on the global hawk at the back.


i mean its a rough outline I did in paint, with terrible quality images capturing an object traveling at over 400 miles an hour. I think this one is a good contender.



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