Praying in Paris streets outlawed

If you go to a country, and don't like their laws, or their people, then leave. Plain and simple.
If you go to a country, and act disrespectful (by praying in the streets and blatantly disobeying laws that the natives of that country obey) then don't act shocked when the law finally comes knockin'.

I don't care who you are. Muslim, Christian, Jewish, buddhist. If you, and tons of your other religious followers are illegally blocking MY path to MY house, or blocking MY path to MY job, I will be in your face about it, and it will come to blows if you can't see that you're the one causing the problems.

I lived in Portland, Maine for a good long while, and the muslim population was growing very very fast there.
So many times I would be standing in line at the grocery store service desk waiting to cash my paycheck, along with 5-10 others typically, and what would happen? A muslim woman and her 2 screaming children would walk up to the desk, blatantly circumventing the obvious line, and expect service. Most of the time no-one else would say anything. I -ALWAYS- did, and I -always- got them booted to the back of the line, right where they belonged. That's life. Tough luck. I don't give a damn if things are different where you come from. You don't have the right to just cut in front of everyone else in my country. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're a muslim, a christian, an atheist, black, white. I don't care.

Am I hateful? I sure am, and i'm proud to say it. I'm hateful of -ANYONE- from ANY walk of life who thinks they can come into my country and start trying to have things THEIR way through unfair means. I get even MORE hateful when they start to whine and act assaulted over something that they weren't justified in doing, or having, to begin with.

I have a lot of hate, for a lot of people. My hate transcends religion, skin color, sexual preference, gender. It's how you ACT that determines if I have hate for you, or love for you.

Cheers

reply to post by pitchdragon


If it really is as you say, and there blocking of the streets is not there faults but the governments why are people taking hidden camera videos of them? and obviously its there fault they CHOOSE to go into the streets gather as a group block off the streets and stand vigil as they raise there butts high in the air. Is this somehow not offensive? Hardly a silent protest, obviously the majority of the non Muslim French don’t like this??

People keep refering to the Christian domination of society to justify the muslim attitude to toward society today . Fine you go ahead and point out that Islam and it's followers are 500 years behind the rest of the world. You point out that Islam believes that religion should rule state rather than be seperate and therefor in a dark age.

Westerners became free to think for themselves when church was seperated from state and islam wants religion first then state. They want the world back in a dark age.

Every minority group has sufferd some kind of criticism from the general community at some point in time but, at least in Australia, never before have all religions and races been fed up with the attitude of just one group.

Every race and religion is sick of the attitude coming out of the muslim community. It's bad attitude toward the beliefs of others, the laws of state and in particular the non muslim females.

The Cronulla riots were sparked in Sydney because for too long were western girls were harrased and abused by muslim men, and most not young, on the beaches and assumed by the muslim community to be no better than prostitutes because they wore bikinis. Because for too long were non muslim boys being blocked from entering the rock pools by groups of muslim men when there were muslim girls in the pools. Because one day a life guard orderd a group of muslim men off a beach for harassing girls and was beat up by a gang of muslims for doing his job.

And the Authorities did nothing up to that point.

It wasn't just white Australians at the riots. The broad community was represented though the media didn't seem to want to show that.

So..... last night thoudans of Muslims went to pray at the building that was given them for that. The people there were all happy and excited about the new big mosque that will be built, and felt the building they'd been given in the meantime was great. In a few places a dozen people prayed outside their regular mosques because they hadn't heard the news (which has been diffused for the last two weeks). Of course no one was arrested or bothered.

A small group of extremist protestors showed up at the new place of worship, and were yelling, and basically everyone else was offended by this and they were told to shut up and pray.

One of the extremists was interviewed, and he said the government had to" fulfil their responsibilities" in building mosques. Pitchdragon, you, too, said something of this sort.

I cannot say how that rubs me the wrong way! The government does not have for responsibility building or paying for ANY places of worship!!!!!! FREEDOM of religion means each has the right and responsibility for their religious worship! The members of a religion are to get together and fund the construction of their mosque, church, or temple. The government does not fund the construction of Christian churches, of protestant temples, Jewish synagogues..... WHY do you figure they should be funding your Mosques?????

Apparently this spoiled child behavior has brung forth fruit because they are going to- tax paying people like me are going to be paying for your mosque. Half my income going out each month is fine with me when I think it is going to be helping people get medical aid they really need, young couples get a start towards autonomy, students being able to get a higher education.....but paying for your place of worship is offensive as hell (and I would say the same if they decided to build a christian church ).

I am all for freedom of belief and religion, but not making others pay for it!!! If we are going to pay for it, that means we (taking that responsibility) have the right to dictate what religion you shall practice (I think I'll make you Budhist). You want that right instead? THEN YOU DEAL WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH IT.

I'm disgusted with this government. Racism and predjudice is about to shoot to a new high. Do you know how many people I spoke with last night, that upon hearing they are going to pay for this big mosque, are considering voting for LePen??

I think everyone should have a big prayer session in front of the parliament, courts and police stations of every faith. It takes standing up to tyrants to overcome them. Its a bit of work, and planning. Then doing it, nonstop, until the threat is over.

WOW there's a lot of hate here toward Islam..Disrespect..insults..I don't get it...We Muslims never insulted christ or made a caricature of him and of christians in general or mocked a religious symbol...some people don't distinguish between true muslims and terrorists and that's the big problem..not every "muslim" is true "muslim"..Islam call for peace and tolerance and one of the most important rules "do not hurt anyone unless he hurted you first" ..Anyhow..I live in An islamic country and it's very rare to see someone praying here...The french gouverment is just trying to provoke muslims as always...Salam Alaykom

reply to post by ModernAcademia


As a Muslim, I approve of this.

Streets are not clean. Muslims are supposed to pray where its CLEAN. The most you can do is sand in the desert, but the street???



Also...getting attention to yourself and causing 'chaos' so to speak is un-Islamic. Islam is a religion of understanding. A man who is working can very well sit inside the cab and pray while sitting if he cannot stand up properly. Goodness what is the world coming to? -.-

If a Muslim is so uneducated that they don't even know what is right and wrong way to pray, without causing public disunity, then they shouldn't be surprised when it happens and blame the government.

Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by alphacenturi

 

Usually hiding the camera is to capture what the people are "really" doing. When people see a camera, often they make a point to suddenly start following the rules and being good. When the camera is hidden, they will act in very different manners.

In this case the camera is hidden because if it was not, the person filming would get attacked, and most likely very hurt.

reply to post by pitchdragon


Umm wow, I was just making an observation, and I did not use the term jihad, you did. But interesting.It does kind of remind me of the type of "sit-ins" they used to do in the 60's, although they were more of the peace-and-love kind of thing.
Anyway, wish you and your countrymen the best.