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Originally posted by SHABBYCAT
It's funny, I see threads like this all the time. Thing is I have been married TWICE! (NEVER AGAIN AND NO MORE KIDS EVER ,NEVER EVER AGAIN EVER!!!!!) Of those two marriages I have kids, both fathers never ever paid me a dime ,neither one has ever been to jail or bothered at all about child support. Each one has gone on to marry again and produce more children. One is on his fourth marriage.
Anywhom ,I can't help but wonder where all these stories of men having it so bad when it comes to child support are coming from ,also what's THE ENTIRE STORY HU? I have a case with each father thru the Texas Attorney General and Nothing has EVER been been done to cause them ANY trouble or to collect something ,anything to help support these kids. Why is that? I think my type of situation is more the norm than men being tormented and harassed and their lives ruined. These stories are the ones you hear cuz a lot of men don't want to be responsible for their lives and they just want to move on with little to no baggage even if they have more than a freakin Samsonite manufacture warehouse.
For the record ,I do well for me and my kids. I am a dedicated mother ,for all the work I've put into my kids no man could ever put a dollar amount on that ,so screw them, they are the ones missing out. If for some reason I ever got any of the money these men OWE ME, I am gonna get botox and implants with it!!!!!
JUST WANTED to add ,the fathers ,even tho there was no reason in the world to doubt ,had requested DNA tests for the children ,so just so there is no confusion ...... The kids are 100% the children of the respective fathers.
edit on 14/9/2011 by SHABBYCAT because: add some more stuff
Originally posted by Six6Six
Originally posted by fetidchimp
reply to post by Six6Six
Jon Cryer has to pay his ex wife even though he has full custody of the child
www.courthousenews.com...
That is ludicrous. Is there no justice for men. I feel for the hard working American man who want nothing but to raise his child in some resemblance of normality.
And yet their is a women's rights movement BUT no male right movement. It is always the wrong people who get screwed. Yes I said it..Men always get screwed. Its a blinding mist that women have had it hard and need the protection of a set of rights for their sex.
The complainers always get what they want.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by MrWendal
I'm not going to get embroiled in personal stories this time around.
I'm suggesting an opportunity where child support arrears can be paid off without having to be thrown in among moderate to maximum security prisoners.
Child support is to assist in paying for their children's every day needs, they are: rent, utilties, food, basic clothing, medical/dental, transport and education. Anything after that is a luxury.
If anyone wants to turn their backs on their responsibilties as a parent and don't like paying child support......don't pay it! But there is a price to pay. What....you think you should get away with it? The problem is every man thinks the burden should lay soley upon the women simply because the baby grows inside HER body.
My advice I gave my sons along time ago.....if she's good enough to sleep with, she's damn well good enough to marry. If you don't want to accept the responsibility of a child, don't sleep around! If your marriage falls in to the pits.....you will share in the responsibility as a father and as man, do right by the child and the child's mother.
Strange how many ex husbands loved their wives once and for many years shared a home with her. But once the marriage fails, the ex wives become a moot. Remember, these women gave birth to YOUR child; they cooked your meals, cleaned your house & shlep, washed your clothes, nursed you when you were sick, shared your bed and had intimate relations with you. Not a chance in hell are you men going to find as good as what you married and gave birth to your children.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
Strange how many ex husbands loved their wives once and for many years shared a home with her. But once the marriage fails, the ex wives become a moot.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by getreadyalready
There are three kinds of dead beat fathers out there:
(a) Those who do not pay child support and those who pay less $ than a can of cat food per month
(b) Those who have nothing to do with the upbringing of their biological children
(c) Those who do none of the both above
All dead beat parents who owe child support, in my opinion, should go to a debtor's jail, put on work release until their child support is paid up.
No, I'm not shocked how many dead beat mothers there are out but they don't rival the number of dead beat fathers.
Secondly; a majority of non-custodial fathers do pay child support, however, how many actually pay a reasonable amount of child support. Is $200 per month for a teen sound reasonable to you? How about $200 per month (not each but...) for all 3 or 4 children sound reasonable to you?
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by korathin
No, thats the difference between my generation and yours!
We did things different in the 1950's and 1960's.......and you have the goul to come on in here and call me KKK ? In my days our men for the most part did the right thing and quite often than not eventually mended their marriages at least until the kids completed school. Today, too many men are spoilt whiny little brats and expect your own way. Marriage is not about ownership and control, it's a partnership not to be taken lightly and needs to be worked at constantly. No wonder 54% of marrigaes these days fail. You don't demand respect, you command respect. Know the difference!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by korathin
The women's rights movement is successful because they are far better organised and more consistant with the needs of the children over all. The men's rights movement is slowly making headwaves but they more often than not fall on their sword due to their inconsistancies, dishonesty and aggression.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by korathin
You are a reflection of your own true self. That became clear in your post.
The KKK is the KKK, no ifs or buts about it and you can twist it to suit your own agenda but it won't work with me.
You have "access to knowledge" that most here are ignorant of? Hahahahahahaha I'm now in fits of laughter!
YOU demand equality? Thats what you all want us women to think but we know your actions speak a whole different tune my friend. You only demand equality to get your foot in the door but we know thats not what you really want. Most decent normal people only want a system that is fair for all, but like politics, you can't win them all over and there's always going to be alot of cry babies.
Divorce to me means TIES ARE SEVERED between man and woman, you can't try and control your ex wife's life at a distance by using economic abuse against her to keep her barefoot and scavaging like an animal, nor are you in any position to judge her unless there is criminal child abuse involved.
Reading your post again, I suspect you have little respect for your own mother who brought you in to this world and is probably around my age and did'nt decipline you properly. Lucky I'm not pro-life!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
Reading your post again, I suspect you have little respect for your own mother who brought you in to this world and is probably around my age and did'nt decipline you properly. Lucky I'm not pro-life!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by korathin
You barely know anything if at all about any of the women's movements.
If you come tearing in here name calling an ATS member a KKK subject then you my friend just lost your debate then and there!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by korathin
You being a German you'd know all about the KKK, right? They are not much different to Nazi Germany. Thats where your roots come from! I have an excellent insight in to your mentality.
The American Constitution is not a document for man and man alone, it's for ALL American born citizens, men and women alike!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
Whats German American upbringing? I know about both all too well and they are different cultures. So which are you? A German or an American?
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Helious
I'm not interested in hearing about birth control etc etc. This thread is about child support, it's about two people who are equally responsible for bringing a child in to the world and taking full responsibility as parents.
In regards to birth control, that is equally the responsibility of BOTH parties. Don't like it, don't have unprotected sex.
Fact is however, more than half of those that find themselves in the Family Court/child support system are those that were in long term common law marriages and legally binding marriages. Many of you, in all your ignorance, assume most children brought up in single parent homes are concieved by a promiscuous mother....and it's all her fault. Fact is, those children who are concieved by a promiscuous mother must of had a promiscuous father.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Helious
Don't call me misguided my friend, I strongly doubt you are of my generation.
I'm not interested in your sob stories.
It DOES take two to tango, it takes two to make a baby. If the male does'nt want to concieve a child then I strongly suggest either he gets a vasectomy, use condoms and dispose of them himself or just pick a girl and marry her. If he can't take better care of his sperm then I suggest he keeps his penis in his pants.
Although I blame both parties but how many males want sex and can't provide a condom? Not only is he protecting his sperm but obviously does'nt give a hoot about STD/HPVs hence why STDs are through the roof in the Western world....almost unheard of in the Middle East but then Muslim women are not promiscuous and their men protect them unlike the common trash in our Western society today with young women's boobs and male arses are sticking out all over our streets showing no respect for themselves or the way they conduct themselves! Makes me wonder what the hell is going on in their parent's homes.
More than half of the children that are subjects of the child support system are FROM BROKEN HOMES of two parent married couple. The next are children born in to long term defacto common law marriages. After that comes children concieved by promiscuity of both parents. Why are you ignoring that fact?
If a man does not want a child.....read above. Marry or keep the zipper up. It's a simple as that.
Don't call me misguided my friend, I strongly doubt you are of my generation.
I'm not interested in your sob stories.
Although I blame both parties but how many males want sex and can't provide a condom?
If a man does not want a child.....read above. Marry or keep the zipper up. It's a simple as that.