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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by sonnny1
No, not at all. I'm still on the same page and I'll stand my ground.
Most non-custodial fathers just don't want to pay child support or only want to pay what they deem fit.
It aint happening Sonny! Get used to it. There are elements within the system that is rotten to the core but the only thing that sticks out like a sore thumb that needs to change are men who are paying child support for a child who is not biologically theirs.
Giving a child morals and principles should be the first thing,but all you can expound is dead beat fathers should serve time in Debtors prisons.
Originally posted by Six6Six
A couple of questions that I am not sure about.
Do women have to pay child support if they don't get the kids?
How often do men win the right to have the kids over the mother?[\quote]
rarely, if the mother fights for custody.
For clarification I am asking Americans as they have differing states so I would imagine differing laws regarding Child Support.
Not really. The support laws are pretty much the same, what varies is enforcement and punishment.
My only advise to men (because they are always screwed) is much like a prenuptial get a contract signed before you have kids to say if divorce arises (which in America is almost a 100% certainty) both parent get equal access and both contribute the same.
won't matter. The court views child support as "The child's money"... is ZERO oversight on how the custodial spend it.
Contracts won't work at all.
Today, the most states REQUIRE the non custodial parent to pay them, they take their cut and send the rest to the custodial parent ( the one with custody).
The state makes big money off Child Support.
Now I know women and some types of men will say that women might not be able to contribute as they have stayed at home and do not have a job.
Well what I say is that if it were not for the man being out at work the child and the wife would have nothing. No food on the table, no nice house, no private school education for little Jimmy, No nice car etc (same applys if its the women out at work).
That's 1920's thinking. Courst do not see women differently than men in the case of support.
Both will always have to pay. The state wants their cut from everyone.
WOMEN seem to forget that the man has to sacrifice seeing his kids all day by being at work for the family so that in itself is worth something, that the man quite often has the decency to keep his end of the bargain and let the women stay home all day just looking after the kids and watching day time soaps on TV. Or stop getting Diverced. If you can't keep a relationship then don't have kids. Unfortunately the traditional marriage has long since been flushed down the drain by the feminist woman...the same women who has stayed home all day to look after the kids and now that you have divorced her demands a huge amount of money while still sitting at home on her butt watching tv and getting larger by the day.
Men choose your wives carefully. Otherwise you will get screwed by her and the law over and over.
ya lost me here. It's about the state collecting a % of the money. period.
has nothing to do with male or female.
Ive been there with more than one child. Trust me. It's about the money, not the parents or the child.
until men get the same rights and chance to have the kids as women do, I suggest you have contracts drawn up before you have kids. If she is unwilling to do that, drop her straight away. Women have a cut off limit of around 35 before the chances of having a normal baby are dramatically reduced. We the men need to use this to our advantage and make sure our rights are thought of before we have children with women who can't wait to hit the courts and get a free ride.edit on 14-9-2011 by Six6Six because: (no reason given)
The courts see the money as the child's, so contracts regarding someone elses money will not fly in court.
You will pay.
You will pay to the court, and they will take their cut.
They then send the rest to the custodial parent to use for the child.
Contracts do not apply here, and will not be valid in Child Support Court.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by KrazyJethro
They also suspend any professional licenses such as RN or MD. They also seize any Federal or State payments such as tax returns, or Travel vouchers, or contract payments. They can revoke passports (even if you are out of the country at the time!). They can freeze bank accounts. They have SO MUCH enforcement power it is scary!! The automated enforcement system automatically sweeps all the USPS, licensure, taxes, credit bureaus, and other databases each night, and any potential hit is investigated.
Child support enforcement has more power to disrupt someone's life than any other agency in the nation, including the penal system. Child support enforcement can strand you in an airport indefinitely or put you in jail til you pay, or seize your accounts, or close down your livelihood.
In fact, if you are remarried, with an active family you are responsible for taking care of, child support enforcement can come in and take up to 55% of your salary to go towards your other kids. That means more of your income goes toward your illegitimate kids, than towards your own wife and kids in your own home!!
The problem isnt paying child support.
It's the utter lack of oversight by Child support law/court/collections.
The custodial parent can spend the money on jewels, clothes, drugs, etc..
Court doesnt care, won't investigate, and will not acknowledge any of this.
You still must pay or go to jail.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by BadNinja68
Don't you worry about that my little ninja.......benefit/welfare "debit" cards are about to be launched and rolled out not only right across the USA but also in Australia. That will solve all your problems then you won't have to squeal about how a custodial parent uses the money.