posted on Aug, 9 2011 @ 03:24 AM
reply to post by ProphecyPhD
Actually conspiracy can consist of two people. If I come and ask you to committ murder and you agree then it is a conspiracy. There is no magic number
three in conspiracy charges.
If your "boy" jumps in to a fight he doesn't have to be from the same "hood." He actually doesn't have to be your boy. It is gang assault because you
both attacked the same person.
Say it with me, research. Do more than a little bit of it.
Again they also deal with the actual actions of the person. Hate crimes legislation does not.
What is the difference between saying, "I am going to go out and beat the crap out of the first person I see" and "I'm going to go out and beat the
crap out of the first Mexican I see"?
There is no difference in the action that follows if you assault someone. The difference is the thought process that got you there. Sorry, but that is
the honest truth. There is no difference in targeting a random person or a person of a certain protected class. The action still creates the same
amount of damage. A fist to the face hurts the same no matter why it was done.
There are really only two things that hate crimes laws do. They create a set of protected classes that have special favor under law. Secondly they
seek to punish a person for an opinion or thought.
Think about it. The kid wasn't charged with a hate crime because he ran over a black man. He was charged because he shouted idiotic white power
slogans. They are punishing the thoughts that he verbalized. If he had kept his mouth shut the charge wouldn't be there.
It isn't about getting with the times. It is about realizing that by allowing legal precedent for punishing thought you open the ability to use it
more severely. Every one has the right to their own thoughts and thought process no matter how much we hate it. It is no less important than the
freedom of speech.
We all agree that freedom of speech must be defended even if we don't like what is said. The same is true of freedom of thought. If you don't have
freedom of thought you can not have the freedom of speech. If someone else gets to predetermine the acceptable thought patterns they determine the
outcome of all things.
edit on 9-8-2011 by MikeNice81 because: (no reason given)