reply to post by dontreally
Are you seriously saying that the concept of HOLY WAR (Heb. 'CH-R-M') - lit. 'ritually mark for extermination') in the Torah does NOT exist? Are
your crazy, orr just blind?
Or maybe ...you just can't read paleoHebrew ? (I think the latter is your problem, actually...)
Then read (in English, if that's all you can read !) Deuteronomy chapter 7 & Deuteronomy chapter 13 & Deuteronomy chapter 20 - all part of the
'holy Torah' of the Jews, especially with regard to the so-called Holy War against the Sons of Amalek (benei Amalekh) a.k.a. the Amalekites which
YHWH emphatically states to the benei Yisro'el (Israelites), 'you shall utterly genocide the sons of Amalek from under Heaven...'
Most English translations prefer the standard verb 'smite' even though the word forms in the Hebrew is the intensive grammatical forms of the verb
'to kill' (intensives such as' piels' etc. are ultra-exrtreme ways of expressing a verb e.g. the intensive form of a verb such as 'sip it from a
glass' would be e.g. 'drain it to the dreggs' etc.
Here is some more for you to chew on...since you seem to like to ignore hard evidence
Exodus 17: 8-16
And YHWH said to Mosheh, Write this down as a Memorial on a Scroll and read it into the ears of Joshua son of Nun : Behold, I will Exterminate the
Seed (lit. ‘Remembrance’) of the Amalekites from Under the Heavens. Therefore Mosheh built an Altar to YHWH right there etc.
NB: the may hand-copied text versions s of the Torah and other Heb. ‘scriptures’ over the centuries (SamPent, Heb. Vorlage to the LXX Greek, the
later Masoretic text,l the mangled earlier consonantal texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Targumim etc.) especially the ones prior to AD 200
don’t always match letter for letter, but the gist is the same in these cases in most of the versions of the Torah etc.
See Deuteronomy 7: 1-5
When YHWH your clan god brings you to the land where you are headed to take possession of it, and has cast out the goyim before you even the Hittites,
and the Girga#es, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, even seven gentile nations that are
more numerous and powerful that you are now:
And when YHWH your clan god has delivered them, you shall utterly exterminate them all showing no mercy to them; neither will you make peace treaties
with them nor enter into marriage with them – for they will surely turn your sons from following me, and cause them to worship other clan gods –
thus will the anger of YHWH burn against you and destroy you without notice.
Deuteronomy 13: 12-17a
12 If you should hear a rumour in one of the towns which YHWH your clan god will give you to live in, saying ‘I heard certain evil men taking some
of the town out encouraging them to worship other foreign clan gods which you have not yet heard of, you shall set up an Inquiry and if the acusation
is proved true that such a ritual Toqebah (‘cultic abomination’) has in fact taken place, you will utterly genocide all the inhabitants of that
town, utterly destroying the town and its inhabitants, even down to the animals – then you will gather together all of their belongings and utterly
burn the lot in the town square – and not take any of it for yourself, and leave it a perpetual Ruin, never again to be rebuilt.
Deuteronomy 20: 10-18
This is the Rule of War for the Towns of the Goyim which YHWH your clan god shall give unto you and your sons as an Inheritance – You shall leave
nothing alive that breathes, but you shall utterly exterminate every one of them, namely the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the
Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; exactly as YHWH your clan god has commanded you, so that they will not be able to teach you all of their
peculiar ritual Toq’eboth (‘taboos’, ‘cultic abominations’) that they perform for their own clan gods, leading you into sin against YHWH
your clan god.
Now remember what Amalekites (lit. ‘Amalek’) did to you when you were sojourning out of the land of Mitzrayim : how they came upon you on the road
and attacked your rear guard, including the weakest ones in your camps, and how they showed no reverence for the Elohim (‘gods’) – therefore it
shall come to pass that when the land you shall be given by you own clan god YHWH is finally settled and becomes your Inheritance to possess, you
shall utterly genocide the Seed of Amalek (lit. ‘Remembrance’) from under the heavens – you will never ever forget this.
Outside the Torah, we have references to ‘fulfillment of the Divine Commands to genocide’ the goyim in books like Joshua and 1 Samuel, in the
context of the (CH-R-M) i.e. the Holy War ‘devoted’ marking of a particular group for racial and cultural Extermination and Genocide of the
Are you blind?