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In 325 CE Constantine, the first Christian emperor, said "let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd.”[8] This policy made a Jew an outcast and pauper.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by wcitizen
You know what, i think you do this professionally.
I dont have time for this.
Originally posted by wcitizen
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by wcitizen
You know what, i think you do this professionally.
I dont have time for this.
The facts can be very uncomfortable, I agree.
Originally posted by soficrow
imho - you need to view it all in context. And remember - Greed has NO loyalty - not to nation or religion.
I do question your Talmud translation, but as far as the rabbi you quote and the JTA - both seem to reflect the rising fundamentalism that's happening in most religions today. Scary. In ALL religions.
It's all being manipulated in my opinion, and always has been - to turn ordinary people against one another. ...It's time for us ALL to rise above it and move past it - not buy into it and return to the old days of the Crusades and pogroms.
…depicted the Jesuits as a "secret society bent on world domination by all available means".[2]
…Adam Weishaupt, a professor of law at a Jesuit school who went on to found the Bavarian Order of the Illuminati. Weishaupt was accused of being the secret leader of the New World Order…
…anti-Jesuits saw the order as a sinister and extremely powerful organization characterized by strict internal discipline, utter unscrupulousness in choice of methods, and undeviating commitment to the creation of a universal empire ruled by the Papacy.
The first Jesuits were crypto‑Jews. Ignatius Loyola himself was a crypto‑Jew of the Occult
Cabala. A crypto‑Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new
religion, while secretly maintaining Jewish practices. As John Torell explains: "In 1491 San Ignacio de
Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain. His parents were Marranos and at the
time of his birth the family was very wealthy. As a young man he became a member of the Jewish
Illuminati order in Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a
Roman Catholic. On May 20, 1521 Ignatius (as he was now called) was wounded in a battle, and
became a semi‑cripple. Unable to succeed in the military and political arena, he started a quest for
holiness and eventually ended up in Paris where he studied for the priesthood. In 1539 he had
moved to Rome where he founded the "JESUIT ORDER," which was to become the most vile, bloody
and persecuting order in the Roman Catholic Church. In 1540, the current Pope Paul III approved
the order. At Loyola's death in 1556 there were more than 1000 members in the Jesuit order,
located in a number of nations."
Ignatius of Loyola's secretary, Polanco, was of Jewish descent and was the only person present at
Loyola's deathbed. James Lainez, who succeeded Loyola as the second Jesuit General, was also of
Jewish descent. Jews were attracted to the Jesuit order and joined in large numbers. Lacunza was
no exception. He was a Jew, which explains why he introduced the eschatological teaching of a
return to the Jewish animal sacrifices during the Millennium. (In a book titled The Coming of the
Messiah in Glory and Majesty published in 1812, 11 years after the death of its author, Jesuit
Emanuel de Lacunza who, wrote under the fictitious pen name of a purportedly converted Jew,
Rabbi Juan Josaphat Ben Ezra, in order to conceal his identity and to make his writings more
palatable to the Protestant readers. He promoted the writings of sixteenth century Jesuit priest
Francisco Ribera, developing a futuristic perspective which restricted the prophetic fulfillments in the
book of Revelation to the end of the world). Lacunza also wrote that during a millennium after the
tribulation the Jewish animal sacrifices would be reinstated along with the Eucharist (the mass) of
the Catholic Church. Lacunza has followed after Jewish fables and replaced the commandments of
God with the commandments of men. That doctrine gives the Jews primacy in God's plan and
relegates Christians to a prophetic parenthetical to be supplanted by the Jews during the
thousand year earthly reign of Christ. ....... link
Originally posted by soficrow
Do you see that there are greedy powermongering factions in every 'group', nation and institution? That they use ordinary people to gain credibility and power? That it's a mistake to define the whole group according to the elite's actions?
Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal." This simply does not exist, not in 59b either, or anywhere else for that matter. Even taking the wildest distortions into account, it still doesn't exist.
Tosefta Aboda Zara 13, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew kills a goy he is not responsible." Pure fabrication. In fact the Tosefta of Avodah Zarah in section B only goes as high as number 3; there is no number 5 at all.
Tosefta Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy." Again, this does not exist. The Tosefta at this point is discusses an entirely different matter.
Shulchan Aruch Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples." No such statement in that section or any other section of the Shulchan Aruch.
Szaaloth Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
The source given for this quotation is useless. "Szaaloth Utszabot" means "questions and answers" and is usually called 'responsa.' "Szaaloth Utszabot ... Jore Dia" means a book that contains halachic Q&A about issues discussed in the Jore Dia (Yoreh Deah) section of the Shulchan Aruch. The problem is, there are a few thousand such books. Some centuries have passed since the writing of Yoreh Deah, enough time for a lot of rabbis to do a lot of writing. This is equivalent to telling someone interested in a recipe they can find it in "a cookbook" on page 29. Try that on a Jewish housewife. So there is no way to track this one down. But even assuming that this statement exists somewhere in an undistorted form, what it means is simply the following. Every religion claims some sort of uniqueness and specialness, and Judaism is no exception. Thank G-d in America we understand that this is precisely what freedom of religion is all about--living in peaceful coexistence in spite of these significant differing beliefs. It is this type of statement that the responsa, if it is legitimate, is referring to. For lest we forget, it was not too long ago, that in many countries Jews were persecuted mercilessly for these very beliefs and for just being Jews. Therefore, if the situation arose whereby it was necessary to fudge a Rabbinic comment here or there[7] in order not to incur the wrath of the local mob inciter, and if by not fudging, some statement might be used as an excuse for persecution, the author of this responsa is merely saying that is was required to do so.
Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all the Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us all openly."
Libbre David 37: "If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death."
The various Jewish scholars that were consulted never heard of this work, and in all likelihood, it does not exist. It certainly is not in the libraries of synagogues or other Jewish institutions. A search of Internet using the Alta Vista search engine for the words "Libbre David" yielded fourteen results. Every single one of them were anti-Semitic Web sites with the same two miserable quotations. Not one normal Jewish Web site. It seems that "Libbre David," if it exists, is the essence of the creed of hate mongers. The only thing that is shocking about these "shocking and exact quotations" is how someone can disseminate something so easily shown to be false. The author does not bear sole responsibility however, as this is certainly not an original work. This is not the first or only time a screed of this genre has been published, and this collection of supposed exact quotations is borrowed work, and probably has been recycled a number of times.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by xuenchen
Way to quote a white supremacist christian website.
There must be something severely wrong with people to continue referencing white supremacist bigots.
Originally posted by mazzroth
Jews..Arabs..both the same genetically. Common ancestor in Abraham that they both agree on so you have to ask yourself this...
Why do they constantly fight like 2 spoilt brats ?
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by mazzroth
Jews..Arabs..both the same genetically. Common ancestor in Abraham that they both agree on so you have to ask yourself this...
Why do they constantly fight like 2 spoilt brats ?
because they aren't ancestors to the arabs, the jews today are ancestors to the russians and polish....to be exact, khazarrian......