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-Rabbi Shimon ben Yochai said: The graves of gentiles do not cause ritual impurity in a dwelling as it says (Ezekiel 34:31) "Now, you [Israel] are My sheep , the sheep of My pasture, you are Man (Adam)…" You [Israel, the subject of the verse] are called Man (Adam) and gentiles are not called Man (Adam). Talmud Keritot 6b--
Originally posted by JustinSee
reply to post by dontreally
Yes, but its not the same. I have lived in melting pots for the majority of my life, and I haven't seen a community as closed off, or seemingly exclusive. They aren't as prone to mingling as other groups. Don't get me wrong, I actually do have Jewish friends, and we love to debate stuff like this. And I wouldn't say they were the only group that does this either. Its just an inherent flaw of religion...to think your chosen and others are not. And some people take it too seriously.
EDIT: Its not about people sticking together, its about people closing each other off.edit on 15-7-2011 by JustinSee because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by JustinSee
But we see that phenomena with other groups as well.
Here in Toronto for instance, Asians stick with asians, Indians with Indians, Muslims with Muslims, Jews with Jews. It is a HEAVILY segregated society.
Im sure their segregation and isolationism is a reason for 'annoyance', but its one thing to be alert to something which you regard as strange and weird, and another to regard this thing which is strange, as maleficent.
It doesnt happen on its own. There is ALWAYS some interest group behind such incitement. And this group are the above explained perennial philosophers/mystics who when they desire, or consider it proper timing, unleash the masses on the Jews.
Every society has done it to them. Whether Christian, Muslim, Democratic, Communist, or National Socialism, the Jews have been the desired targeted group,. And its because these mystics have philosophical views of the 'disempowered' Jew, as Jesus - a Jew - was crucified, and died for the sins of mankind, so too have the Jews been crucified and sacrificed throughout history out of some cosmic archetypal process, for the sins of mankind.
The people who try to present the Talmud as racist are taking advantage of laymen ignorance. The Talmud is a book written by priests and sages. It is MYSTICAL, and METAPHYSICAL, as all or most sacred books are. Thus, the language used is conveying an IDEA and concept, hidden beneath the veil of ordinary language.
"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."Baba Kamma 37b
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Rabbi Ila'i said: If a person is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known, dress in black clothes, cover his head in black, and do what his heart desires so that G-d's name will not be desecrated.
Rabbi Yochanan said: A gentile who studies Torah is liable for death as it says (Deuteronomy 33:4) "Moses commanded us Torah as a heritage." It is a heritage for us and not for them... Rabbi Meir would say: How do we know that even a gentile who engages in the study of Torah is like a Jewish high priest? As it says (Leviticus 18:5) "Which man shall do [i.e. study] and by which he shall live [in the afterlife]." It does not say "priests, Levites, and Israelites" but "man". We learn from here that even a gentile who engages in the study of Torah is like a Jewish high priest. [We answer the contradiction between Rabbi Yochanan's statement and Rabbi Meir's that] there [Rabbi Meir] is referring to their seven commandments.
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
Further discussion, Hebrew (different than judaism imo) omitted many angel names within the OT and classified them as unfocused phrases such as "the angel of the lord" or "the angel of fire" etc etc. This was done purposefully in order to appease the G-d and not to bring worship towards angelic beings. This can also be seen as a flip-side why Satan/Lucy was omitted out of the Hebrew bible, they did not want to bring worship to other beings other than G-d. Which to the regards of Hebrew was listening to the law!
,but interesting enough, Adam and Eve both acknowledged evil. (Talking snake=a Liar) Even obeyed into it. But these Oral Traditions were conflicting with Religious Laws and Ancient Hebrews just did not have time to answer the philosophical question about evil.
The proof pudding in my opinion about Satan being in the bible would be in the book of Job.
Ancient Hebrew worshipped in YWHW, but also layered G-d in different moods as well. So ancient Judaism in some way believed in a Multi-G-d that was united within the G-dhead(I use this word loosely). If you believe in the fact that G-d did have a working dialogue with the Hebrews, you can understand why they may have had a polytheism relationship with G-d. That is why they "fear" Him and love Him at the same time.
Further discussion, Hebrew (different than judaism imo) omitted many angel names within the OT and classified them as unfocused phrases such as "the angel of the lord" or "the angel of fire" etc etc. This was done purposefully in order to appease the G-d and not to bring worship towards angelic beings. This can also be seen as a flip-side why Satan/Lucy was omitted out of the Hebrew bible, they did not want to bring worship to other beings other than G-d. Which to the regards of Hebrew was listening to the law!
And wheres your proof for this??
Angels lost their prominence in Jewish belief due to the Rabbis' fearing that people would worship angels instead of G-d. Indeed they felt that this might lead to blasphemy. However, as Margolies states in his book "A Gathering of Angels (1.7, p.11):
,but interesting enough, Adam and Eve both acknowledged evil. (Talking snake=a Liar) Even obeyed into it. But these Oral Traditions were conflicting with Religious Laws and Ancient Hebrews just did not have time to answer the philosophical question about evil.
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. -Romans2
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. -Philippians3
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. -Roman9
For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect -Romans4
he said unto them, How say they that Christ is David's son? And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? -Luke20
if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. -Galatians3
he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. -Matthew
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me -John10
thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. -Isaiah62
the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. -Acts11
in Christ there is neither Jew or Greek male or female slave or free -Galatians
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
-4
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
-1John
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie -Revelation3
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. -11
www.biblegateway.com...
The best known 18th century editions of the New Testament in English are the Rheims (Douai) Edition and the King James Authorized Edition. The Rheims (Douai) translation of the New Testament into English was first printed in 1582 but the word "Jew" did not appear in it.
The King James Authorized translation of the New Testament into English was begun in 1604 and first published in 1611. The word "Jew" did not appear in it either. The word "Jew" appeared in both these well known editions in their 18th century revised versions for the first times.
www.biblebelievers.org.au...
Following is a surprising article from respected news source YNET in Israel, about the Jewish-Bolshevik conquest of Russia after 1917... (unlikely to ever be reprinted or reported by America's major print, TV or radio "news" media.)
STALIN'S JEWS - Opinion from Israel, Ynetnews
12-21-6 Excerpts only...
"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish.
We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.
Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.
And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the 'bloodthirsty dwarf'."
www.ynetnews.com...
SOLZHENITSYN: 66 Million Murdered By Jewish Bolsheviks...
Henry Makow PhD (an anti-Zionist Canadian Jew), in his "Red Symphony" essay (see Makow's savethemales.com website archives) claims that from the behind the scenes, the ROTHSCHILD BANKING CARTEL financed and controlled the BOLSHEVIKS who took over Russia.
If one wants to know the extent of the STATE TERROR and HORROR inflicted upon people in Russia since 1917 AFTER the JEWISH BOLSHEVIKS of Lenin (and his Party competitor) Trotsky, took TOTAL power, read the following informative short article by TEXE MARRS (not related to Jim Marrs) about historian Solzhenitsyn's latest book (banned in the West), "Together for Two Hundred Years."
Solzhenitsyn: The "Conscience of the 20th Century"
TEXE MARRS at: ConspiracyWorld.com:
If not exaggerated, Solzhenitsyn asserts that since 1917, the Bolsheviks, continuing under assassin Stalin, through and even after WW2, systematically executed, and inside (and outside) their thousands of Gulags, worked, starved and froze to death, SIXTY-SIX million people, not all, but most of them CHRISTIANS (whom the Bolsheviks hated). This mass death was THE LARGEST REAL "HOLOCAUST" in modern history - but totally unknown today by most Americans, British and western Europeans and absent from our school books. Of course no publisher in the Western world dares reprint Solzhenitsyn's book in English. www.conspiracyworld.com...
Just don't be too shocked when you dig into the weeds of both Torah and Talmud when you read how these charming individuals regard the goyim generally...
I believe this answers the question by the goyim are shall we say just a little unhappy with persons who run around calling themselves the Master Race....er...'Chosen people' (whoops....I get my racist epithets mixed up sometimes, sorry !)
"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b
The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."Baba Kamma 37b
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Rabbi Ila'i said: If a person is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known, dress in black clothes, cover his head in black, and do what his heart desires so that G-d's name will not be desecrated.
Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."