Originally posted by star in a jar
Vaccines need to be safer, basically they can't have any adjuvants added to them to stretch the supply because that is where the majority of the
problems come from.
But such premium vaccines cost money and only those who are from the wealthier classes can afford to have the best vaccines for their children, the
poorer children get the more dangerous (next to free) vaccines that are loaded with crapola.
This is eugenics.
adjuvants are to stimulate the immune system response. though i think there are safer ones they could use, i'm not sure, but they are not necessarily
the same as additives or even preservatives...though that is likely in vaccines as well.
Originally posted by crazydaisy
reply to post by star in a jar
May I ask what has lead you to believe that poor and wealthy children do not
receive the same vaccine?
for higher price you can have the vaccines split up....the default is fewer shots, but they are combinations of the vaccines in ONE shot. which is
harder on the immune system and i mean, for little babies....c'mon.....
but if you pay more you can have them split up, which means less likelihood of negative reaction.
and to the OP:
for real?!? questioning another posters understanding of the immune system when i highly doubt you have a solid grasp on it yourself. am i right?! are
you some kind of doctor? i am guessing not...
i understand that some people have chosen what they believe and regardless of what they hear otherwise they will refuse to change their minds. i am
one of those people, seeing threads like this and responses like mrsir or whatever their name is (and OP), reinforces my belief that vaccines are not
a benevolent force, i'm not sure how bad it actually is. i know the risks, i know those risks are not TYPICAL (just like immunity from a shot isn't
) but they happen. my son had a negative reaction MORE THAN ONCE before i realized exactly what was going on. he was actually having seizure
type episodes of tensing up, blue in the face, etc. scary, scary! he is fine now...but the last time it was christmas and he was just listless. it was
sad to see. then i started researching causes for his symptoms--and realized upon reading the causes he HAD just gotten his shots. he's never had
anything like that since, never really been sick. allergies sometimes. he actually did get whooping cough though he had been vaccinated for it.
google: iansvoice ---anyone who believes vaccines should NOT be a choice...and should be mandatory and those NOT vaccinating are child abusers should
look at that site of that little baby that died from the hepB vaccine.
i don't believe vaccines caused the decline of these preventable diseases, i believe the vaccines were pushed out as the disease was in steep decline
and attributed the 'eradication' to the vaccine. remember swine flu? by the time they had the vaccine out it was almost literally unheard of for
people to have it anymore. thats really just like a microcosm of the larger diseases like polio: www.whale.to...
and even IF the vaccines are the biggest reason people don't die from polio or measles anymore (though most cases of polio is caused by vaccinations)
*rolls eyes* the fact that vaccines CAN and sometimes DO cause very serious reactions---like with baby ian, or kids that go deaf, blind, ANY negative
reaction---ANY! that should be optional. especially when there is no definitive proof that vaccines fully prevent anyone from getting this
i see reason for SOME vaccines. tetanus, rabies.....SOME. not HEP B. not HPV. not VARICELLA. NOT EVEN WHOOPING COUGH! sorry, *shrugs* death IS a part
of life, even for babies sadly. but it shouldn't come from artificial means MEANT to save lives.
and many of the illnesses are treatable in this day and age--this little boy was in a homeless shelter, not a prime example of your argument, OP.
oh yes, and as Blaine has said---and is common-frickin-sense---adults are spreading whooping cough.
herd immunity means that that kid that cannot get vaccinated is safe because the other kids are
what is it called when the majority of kids that are vaccinated are the ones GETTING these illnesses....