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Men and Child support. What is the answer?

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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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A mother's job never ends from the moment she wakes up to the moment she hits the pillow and even then she does'nt sleep if her child is sick or has a moderate to severe disability.

If a woman has 2 or more children under the age of 13 and is the custodial parent, a part time job is more suituable for her but if she can muster up family support or has extended family to lean on believe you me she will almost kill (in a manner of speaking only because I know you guys are going to twist that to your own agenda) to get a fulltime job.

If a non-custodial parent who has been unemployed for 2 or more years and has 2 workable arms and legs; deserves everything he gets from the authorities.


A fathers job never ends either. You make it seem like the only thing a father is good for,is the money!!! Indentured servitude anyone? Why should he be the one to make the sacrifices. It took 2 to conceive. If a father is willing to take the children half the time,willing to sit there and take care of the kids,if they are sick,or with disability,where in the handbook of child custody,does it say the mother should have PRIMARY PLACEMENT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME? You have seen the percentages of placement.You know what it is.Why cant you admit that its gender biased? Why cant you admit YOU ARE Gender-biased?




posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CobraCommander
 


If she has 2 or more kids under the age of 13 how about she get a part time job and he get a fulltime job?


If "she" has two or more kids, it's not his problem. If THEY have 2 or more kids, why not let the woman work full time and the man work part-time?



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:13 PM
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Because women generally are (though not in all cases) the better carer.

Are you aware that at one time in past history it was always the men that got custody? Women finally got organised and worked hard for many years to change that system, by succeeding she first had to change legislation to allow women to vote. In more modern times she re-organised herself and legislated for women's health and equality in the work place amongst many other things she has been successful at through legislation.

It's like I said alot earlier; men are not well organised and although men's health is slowly coming to the forefront of people's attention, they are not doing enough about it. As for the lone father's organisations, they too are making strides however for every step forward they make, sections of their "community" of militant style rebels are taking these organisations 5 steps back by breaking the law.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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You are an idiot because I already told you long ago what my thoughts are on both parents sharing the kids 50/50 !!! Go back to previous threads.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Erica1631
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Are you guys referring to tax intercept by chance?



No, my father paid directly to Support Services. He never had his taxes garnished, and only had his paychecks directly garnished for a short time right after the divorce. He opened his own business after that.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CobraCommander
 


I'll run my mouth off for another 11 pages if I have to....if time permits and where time permits


That's fine, but don't pretend that men are the only people bitching on this thread.

As a matter of fact, I have heard a lot of other women bitching with much more sound logic and genuine gripes. Like the woman who just jumped in here in fact. Sounds to me like she is not being treated fairly. So she has every right to bitch and even have my sympathies.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Because women generally are (though not in all cases) the better carer.


LINK PLEASE?

So,I am right. Women are still being placed on a pedestal,demanding equal rights,and gender equality,and using antiquated dogmatic stigmas,that they fought to get rid of for the last 100 years . Just priceless.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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Once AGAIN, unemployment rates have nothing to do with the individual.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by sonnny1
 


Because women generally are (though not in all cases) the better carer.





Yeah, incarceration rates of kids raised by single mothers can attest to that!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Because women generally are (though not in all cases) the better carer.


LINK PLEASE?

So,I am right. Women are still being placed on a pedestal,demanding equal rights,and gender equality,and using antiquated dogmatic stigmas,that they fought to get rid of for the last 100 years . Just priceless.


If women are the better "carers" then men are the better workers. Get back to the laundry basket ladies.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by sonnny1
 


You are an idiot because I already told you long ago what my thoughts are on both parents sharing the kids 50/50 !!! Go back to previous threads.



I am doing my part. I am in advocacy groups,trying to change the current laws,to make it 50/50. You,are here doing NOTHING but giving out your opinion,as FACT. How about joining a Mens advocacy group near you? Help change the current situation for EVERYONE? Dont be a follower,be a leader! Show the women of the world what equality is all about! I challenge you! Or continue to mock those going through this,with wild opinionated BS. Your call.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by CobraCommander

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by sonnny1
 


Because women generally are (though not in all cases) the better carer.





Yeah, incarceration rates of kids raised by single mothers can attest to that!




Statistics dont LIE hey?



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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The reason this happens is because of socialists in our government. Argue the facts and all the bull sh## theories that you want. It is not because of capitalism and it is actually quite new in america, however if you look at the suicide rate in other socialist countries, you should notice that the suicide rate is higher among young males and studies have shown that it is related directly to non-custodial fathers and Child Support.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1





Statistics dont LIE hey?


Frankly, it is a rare mother that I would actually call a good mother. Most just do the job like drones, raise the kids like product. Narcissism is rampant not only among those mothers, but the children they raise. Very cold people at best. Shallow, egotistical. Even if the kids are clean, fed, and clothed, the psychological impact of being raised by a single mother is far greater than what is commonly acknowledged.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Because her case is that of many many other women's stories except you only listen to those women who come on in here and tell you they either don't receive child support and/or can't be bothered chasing their ex spouses down for child support. Of course you'll suck up to them because thats your main goal....not being forced to pay child support!



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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I never mentioned the unemployed rate.......might as well now....it's 22.4% in the USA.

Want a link? Go find it yourself.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
The reason this happens is because of socialists in our government. Argue the facts and all the bull sh## theories that you want. It is not because of capitalism and it is actually quite new in america, however if you look at the suicide rate in other socialist countries, you should notice that the suicide rate is higher among young males and studies have shown that it is related directly to non-custodial fathers and Child Support.


I hate to politicize this in any way, because socialism in and of itself is not a "bad" word. But I must admit, this could be considered to be a darker aspect of socialism and social-engineering. But you must also consider that it is the leaders of capitalist industry and finance that have brought all of this about, not political socialism.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
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Because her case is that of many many other women's stories except you only listen to those women who come on in here and tell you they either don't receive child support and/or can't be bothered chasing their ex spouses down for child support. Of course you'll suck up to them because thats your main goal....not being forced to pay child support!


So if a man is sympathetic to a woman who is genuinely being wronged, he must be "sucking up?" Think she'll give me a BJ in BTS?
Get real lady.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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You watch too much TV....a majority of mothers are decent law abiding citizens and do whats right by their children. You're grubby mind is too far busy sticking it in to the housing projects.....and by saying that.....not all mothers in the housing projects are as dysfunctional you allege.
edit on 20-6-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CobraCommander
 


I never mentioned the unemployed rate.......might as well now....it's 22.4% in the USA.

Want a link? Go find it yourself.


I know what the unemployment rate is. Sorry you missed the point of our discussion.



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