Biological Attack on Germany ? / EHEC 5 DEAD and allready 600 infected.

Originally posted by Grey Magic
Please change your title you fearmonger.

The original article says possible biological attack? they're still investigating.

EHEC is the same as ECOLI so it can just be a case of bas foodcontrol, it wouldnt be the first time in Germany.

edit on 26-5-2011 by Grey Magic because: added more information

And you know better than the expert who wrote the article, how?

reply to post by DOSmallorca

trinityeyes.wordpress.com...
translation:
"The dark side of the lethal bacterium of the Spanish cucumber May 31, 2011 When I found out the news of the deaths in Germany caused by cucumbers in evil been and due to the E-coli bacterium. First that was happened to me it was that its objective was in ruining the Spanish horticultural export, since was being accused without having definitive tests of the state intoxicant of horaliza happiness. But the truth that it hides is much more horrifying: The true cause would be a reaction saturated of own e-coli because of radioactive elements like uranium on the German environment"

Bioterror or Fukushima ?

Germany just announced plans to phase out all nuclear power by 2022...

Sorry. It's the conspiracy theorist in me

Do you remember the wikileaks cable which related a conversation between the US Ambassador and one of the Spanish government reps? They discussed the fact that if Europe wouldn't stop resisting GMO foods they would have to consider measures to coerce them into accepting it. A few weeks after that prices shot up, but Europe still continues to resist GMO. Now this? Suspicious much?

interesting story

news.sky.com...


the headline states:

'Killer Cucumber' Outbreak: 365 New Cases

yet if you read the story the last line states:

"German officials admitted on Tuesday that latest tests showed the cucumbers did not carry the dangerous bacteria strain.

The exact source of the virulent strain of the bacteria is still not known."


this means whatever is doing the damage is still out there and unnknown.strange the title of the story is KILLER CUCUMBER but the end the story stating its not the cucumbers.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull


"German officials admitted on Tuesday that latest tests showed the cucumbers did not carry the dangerous bacteria strain.

The exact source of the virulent strain of the bacteria is still not known."


this means whatever is doing the damage is still out there and unnknown.strange the title of the story is KILLER CUCUMBER but the end the story stating its not the cucumbers.

edit on 1-6-2011 by JohnySeagull because: (no reason given)

Yep and those "experts" managed to ruin Spain's vegetable export and push that poor country to even more problems as if they did not have enough. I swear people that spout unverified sensations that are of such caliber that can ruin a whole countries branch of export should suffer some serious consequences for their actions.

Federal Ministry of the Interior counted already 2006 on EHEC terrorist attack The Federal Ministry of the inside was already informed in the year 2006 about the possibility of a forthcoming Bioterror- attack with Ehec. That comes out from a report of the federal office for population protection and disaster relief, which LifeGen.de in the original is present. Stands firmly: Although of " Protection commission with the Federal Minister of the Innern" wrote, 100-Pages strong report in chapter 2.2.1 in detail on "
www.lifegen.de...

E. coli strain responsible for deadly European outbreak has never been detected before, WHO says - AP


www.breakingnews.com...

The killer germ EHEC rages further in Germany, so far approximately 2000 cases, the number of infections rises rapidly - now the intestine germ demanded a further victim in Hamburg. 18 victims in total.

Telegraph reports seven cases in UK and one case in Sweden!

All had connections with Germany it seems.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

We reported that the contaminations with the Ehec bacterium could be consequence of an attack and therefore the first organic terror act within Germany, in LifeGen. de – demonstrably – nationwide as the first medium. And first of all as the only Webzine worldwide. Embarrassingly meanwhile is solely that many Mainstream counterparts did not recognize after Fukushima also this catastrophe as such on time, and in this manner valuable time lost went. a commentary of Vlad Georgescu was in the case Ehec quickly clear to us that the "expansion" was able to be in no case natural origin. Groceries contaminations with Ehec occur namely annually, also other pathogens, cunning ions for example, contribute sometimes to
heavy diseases. Yet the traceability is always a question of hours, maximal days – is most it an appointment that is taken immediately out of the trade.

In the current case to be sure it looks differently. That fruit and vegetable functioned out of north Germany per se hardly as a source of the Bazillen, lies on the hand – unless, one contaminated entire palette in the wholesale trade therewith. In such a case only heavily could be investigated, which freight of whom and at which address delivered become is. For the infected food was not analyzed on target. Moreover the probability is that greenhouse tomatoes or cucumber arrive out of conventional annex with Entero bacteria in contact, immediately zero. Corresponding contaminations had appeared in the past to be sure in organic spinach (USA), however in fruit and vegetable, that not not correspond already on the basis of its annex methodics to the profile of the "source".

Our own analysis came therefore at the 24.5.2011, and therefore before the Virologen Kekule, to the end: We have it with a bacteriological attack to do. Both distribution speed and the simultaneous contamination in HH, NISA, Saarland and Hesse, allow no other scenarios. We posted this thesis with Twitter, Facebook and Google Buzz in German and English to support around national investigators on this unorthodox way – since then grasp finally also Mainstream media the theory as a question up.

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hey, stickman33 welcome to ATS. i,am honored to have your first post.

Originally posted by Grey Magic
reply to post by DOSmallorca

 

As long as it isn't confirmed by the authorities----

"We are form the government, and we are here to "help" you."

It's spreading fast and on a global scale, though all cases are linked to Germany.
The source of the outbreak remains unknown.

"This E.coli is a new strain of bacteria that is highly infectious and toxic," said the Chinese scientists at the Beijing Genomics Institute in Shenzhen city.

The WHO said it had also been notified of cases in Austria, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Britain. EU officials have said three cases have also been reported in the United States.

Source

I don't think its a bio-attack, at most ( if we keep conspiracy in mind ) it is a test run of the strain to see effects and dispersion rate on living population.

Its not spread enough worldwide and the mortality rate is too low.

I do admit that contaminating food supply is part of my top 3 spots to obliterate a country or the world with a bio-weapon.

If you really want to do a good job :

Get a strain with really high contamination rate, airborne is best.

Bio-engineer it, so no previous immune conditions exists among the population.

Incubation time before any apparent symptoms : 1 to 2 weeks

mortality rate : above 90%

Places to contaminate that guaranteed you success : International airport, food supply chain, money.

After doing that, everybody can kiss their *** good bye.


To be more realistic, i think its not a intentional man made disease but i do think human have something to do with that.

With all the pollution, crap, toxic waste, bio waste, medication, radioactivity, etc... etc...for 1000 pages of stuff we dump in nature, i think its "normal" that bacteria, virus and all living things mutate at some point.

End of the world : 1
Humanity : 0

hey,
how about this:

www.welt.de...

G-translated: (edited words are in [ ] )

A scenario for biological attacks: Can EHEC serve as a weapon?

Alexander S. Kekulé is director of the Institute for Medical Microbiology, Martin-Luther-University Halle-Wittenberg. In a newspaper article he wrote yesterday, the worst case [cant be out of the question that] it could be possible that the bacteria had been deliberately placed in circulation.

Had such an outbreak can be caused by [an attack]?

Alexander S. Kekulé: Now that information to the authorities, the source was found, one can say it openly: Exactly the same outbreak could have been caused by a deliberate application. Biological attacks are fortunately very unlikely, but why one must not ignore this possibility for the cause search.

What could such an attack take place?

Alexander S. Kekulé: The contamination of food with EHEC or other toxin-diarrheal agents is one of the typical scenarios for biological attacks. This is firstly because these pathogens are easy to obtain. Dangerous diarrheal pathogens are in almost any microbiology laboratory and are usually not very secure. They are even more accessible in developing countries where the most dangerous bacteria occur just because we in Central Europe have no immunity to it.

How easy and simple it is to do such a thing?

Alexander S. Kekulé: There are many ways to infiltrate, pathogens or toxic chemicals in the food or water supply. Given sufficient basic knowledge of microbiology, a small laboratory and criminal fantasy.

What dose it need to?

Alexander S. Kekulé: EHEC and other pathogens include so dangerous, because even very few seeds, about 20 to 50 bacteria, can be enough for an infection. With a test tube full of bacteria can theoretically be infected easily a few thousand people.

Is it possible to build awareness so dangerous EHEC strain?

Alexander S. Kekulé: Specialists can the well, but know each other and are hardly qualify as perpetrators. But that is not needed because enough known, particularly dangerous toxins forming bacteria completely. The most effective would be a germ that occurred in Central Europe in recent years, barely, because on the other hand, there is no immunity. Just as a seed is just the way the broken type EHEC O 104: H4 (HUSEC 41).

Why not children are affected?

Alexander S. Kekulé: The fact that many adults to get HUS is one of the features of this type EHEC. Probably it is due to a combination of special properties of the bacterium, the so-called virulence factors, and the lack of immunity. Children are also at risk, but which are known to eat do not like raw vegetables and salads.

What should one do you think in terms of food safety? Where are the biggest hot spots?

Alexander S. Kekulé: The current EHEC outbreak has demonstrated once again that dangerous pathogens and the processing and distribution of food is much faster than the health authorities. Boundaries of counties and states are no barrier to germs, for protective measures already unfortunately. In pursuit of outbreaks, it does not matter whether the bacteria originate from a charge cucumbers from Spain or a test tube in a laboratory. On suspicion of a crime, the Federal Criminal Police Office to determine if natural outbreaks, the countries and parties responsible. Since there is urgent need for regulation.

By Alexander S. Kekulé [interviewer] Silvia Schaub

(Reuters) - Scientists probing the deadly E. coli strain in Europe are finding the bacteria combines a highly poisonous, but common, toxin with a rarely seen "glue" that binds it to a patient's intestines.

And it seems to be airborn by now, at least it is passing from Person to Person.

According to World Health Organization (WHO) the EHEC Infektionszahlen rises also in other countries:
• Austria 2
• Denmark of 14, seven cases heavy of it (hämolytisch uraemic syndrome, HUS)
• France 6
• The Netherlands of 8, of it four HUS cases
• Norway 1
• Spain 1 (HUS case)
• Sweden of 43, of it 15 HUS cases
• Switzerland 2
•Great Britain 7
USA 3

Sorry content was already posted in another thread.

Originally posted by DOSmallorca

According to World Health Organization (WHO) the EHEC Infektionszahlen rises also in other countries:
• Austria 2
• Denmark of 14, seven cases heavy of it (hämolytisch uraemic syndrome, HUS)
• France 6
• The Netherlands of 8, of it four HUS cases
• Norway 1
• Spain 1 (HUS case)
• Sweden of 43, of it 15 HUS cases
• Switzerland 2
•Great Britain 7
USA 3

You can add three more...In Denmark it's now seventeen. Seven with HUS. Nine of them are female. Age 23-81
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