The patriot act is there to help the people against terrorisms. How can these people not want this. What is so bad about checking your children and others. What if one of them were terrorists. BELIEVE , your gov't is trying to save you.

Texas is being unreasonable. There is nothing wrong for checking out peoples who could be terrorists. Don't you want a SAFE nation. You know, i would be glad to pay out more to have a safer nation. Woulden't you? What is wrong with that?

Searching people without probably cause or a warrant is a violation of the 4th ammendment. It starts with Airports, then trains, then bus lines, then checkpoints on the road.. and every step of the way "you can choose not to..."

One chink in the armor is all it takes to eliminate all protection.

Originally posted by cloaked4u
Texas is being unreasonable. There is nothing wrong for checking out peoples who could be terrorists. Don't you want a SAFE nation. You know, i would be glad to pay out more to have a safer nation. Woulden't you? What is wrong with that?

I do not think people are debating that they do not want to be safe. It is the methods in which it is being done and the violations in doing so. There are other options, check out Israels method for screening passengers and they do not have the problems, and time shows that they have been successful, and they do not violate peoples rights in the process.

Originally posted by rogerstigers
Searching people without probably cause or a warrant is a violation of the 4th ammendment. It starts with Airports, then trains, then bus lines, then checkpoints on the road.. and every step of the way "you can choose not to..."

One chink in the armor is all it takes to eliminate all protection.

Searching without probable cause will eliminate TERRORISTS. Are you a terrorist? It will eliminate the terrorists. So, don't you want that? I say search and search them all, wherever they are. At the airport, at home, at the mall, the train station and anywhere possible. We do not want the terrorists peoples to get a foothold into the american dream. I want you to smile when your being searched. Be proud that your gov't is there for you.

Originally posted by cloaked4u
[Be proud that your gov't is there for you.

Allow me to quote Ronald Reagan:

The scariest words in the English language are: Hello, we are from the government and we are here to help.

That pretty much sums it up.

Originally posted by Maxmars
Just for fun, I went to look at all the flight paths the DOJ was threatening to close down ....

DALLAS FORT WORTH

AUSTIN

HOUSTON

Come on, really? Do you really think they would have closed down air traffic over Texas? ... Really?

(and this is just a very VERY abbreviated display of flight activity.... )

Maxmars don't forget about the UPS hub and Fedex.

Putting a No Fly Zone over Texas would be one of the worst ideas ever. Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport is bigger than the state of Rhode Island. This is shear stupidity at its finest to even suggest something like this. Enough flights (even international ones) go through D/FW International alone that it would cause a serious ripple affect across the country. Sure, you could re-route some things, but there aren't many other major airports around the country that could handle the load of flights that would need to be accommodated just form that one airport. And what about all the flights from Love Field (also in Dallas)? Austin? San Antonio? Houston? Amarillo? Texas is so big, that would be like shutting down the airspace of most of Western Europe.

Also, what of the airlines based in Texas, like SouthWest? Would they have to stop all operations, or would it just be the flights here? And what of the military bases? What about NASA? What if they need to land at or take off from Johnson Space Center because they can't at Kennedy for some reason?

Again, shear stupidity to even suggest it.