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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
While you are spending your time forgiving these sick inbred monsters, they are spending their time working on how to alter and mutate your DNA and all your future ancestors DNA, permanently.
If your children give birth to mutated babies, maybe with Down Syndrome, 2 heads, inside out, blind, etc.... I suggest taking your own advice and just forgive them for their deeds upon you and your family.edit on 16-5-2011 by JibbyJedi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by faryjay
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by faryjay
Forgive them to move on.
Getting tired of this master and slave program
Fun in small doses, but gets kinda boring though
Don´t you think Love would be better
They´re just trapped into this just as much as we are
Forgiveness only forgiveness can break this
No seriously, I think you're on the wrong website ... You're meant to be on www.ILOVEILLUMINATI.com coz here you won't find anyone who'll agree with you forgiving them or anyone else that is running & ruining this World ...
This thread really is written by someone who's very high right now!
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by faryjay
Forgive them to move on.
Getting tired of this master and slave program
Fun in small doses, but gets kinda boring though
Don´t you think Love would be better
They´re just trapped into this just as much as we are
Forgiveness only forgiveness can break this
Uh,,,
How exactly is forgiveness going to solve anything? Do you seriously think the Illuminati are just going to be like "oh gee guys, they forgave us! Now we don't have to be evil overlords of the world anymore!"
Sorry not how it works. What do you mean by "move on" exactly? Ignore it? Let them do what they want to do?
I sure am glad nobody listened to people like you during WWII.
"OH just forgive Hitler! That is the only way to stop him!"
Actually, no, bombs and guns are what stopped him.
When you stop living in your fantasy world and want to join the rest of us, make a new thread.
Originally posted by sprocket2cog
ill have to read all that a few times to see where your going , but i agree we are all just different aspects of the same energy.. so to fully be one we first must accept all that we are ..
forgiving someone that seems unforgivable is the first steps towards bringing everything together..
but i have no intention of leaving this universal box just yet, hey the view is grand and im still waiting to get my "end of the world, been there done that" t-shirt...
but im being serious about the first part, i just like to joke around some times tooedit on 16-5-2011 by sprocket2cog because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by martiendejong2
What to do if your enemy keeps taking advantage of you? Keep forgiving?
Originally posted by faryjay
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by James1982
I gave the Illuminati a pretty good reason to move on and remember.
I have nothing whatsoever with them to do.
Other than we all came from the same Source, and therefore I am
bound from my heart to love them (as I love you)
And endure for that Love to shine through
Hey Jesus, weren't you suppose to come down on the 21st of this Month?
You've come a bit too early
We're not ready yet!!!edit on 16/5/11 by faryjay because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Mizzijr
Forgive the Illuminati? Technically we don't have the faintest clue as to who is the real Illuminati in today's society. There is talk saying that there is more than one group of Illuminatus. Maybe there is, I'll even say more than likely there is. Many do not know that the Jesuits' origins are Illuminati, it's not Bavarian so yea there is more than one.
Forgive them? I have to determined what exactly they did first. I hear they invest in human souls. Hmm, they haven't taken mines, and as far as I'm concerned, any soul they have was probably given to them.
So in short, I think I'll go have a cup of that green tea I forgot about.
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by James1982
I gave the Illuminati a pretty good reason to move on and remember.
I have nothing whatsoever with them to do.
Other than we all came from the same Source, and therefore I am
bound from my heart to love them (as I love you)
And endure for that Love to shine through
You gave them no reason whatsoever to move on. Do you even have any idea about the organization of which you speak? Do you suggest we do nothing but just love them? What are you smoking, seriously?
To make change you must take action. I'm not saying I have, but I definitely am not promoting the idea of sitting around in a love fest as an idea to stop people from taking advantage of earth and it's inhabitants. You seriously think you are going to help by doing this?
All your new age mumbo jumbo may sound nice and make you feel good, but all you are doing is abandoning your fellow man in their time of need. That time of need being NOW when everyone needs to wake up and get angry, not lay down and get run over.
Originally posted by faryjay
reply to post by laffoe
How about you go forgive the Illuminati while we all sit here and deal with real issues
Originally posted by questcequecest
the answer's no Griff...
Yeah, what are you deaf and stupid? I said "NO!"
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by sprocket2cog
Originally posted by martiendejong2
What to do if your enemy keeps taking advantage of you? Keep forgiving?
For the war to stop someone has to be the first to turn the swords into plowshares..
to forgive is divine. Gandhi was a prime example of the fighting with out fighting mantra
Your not getting it either, are you? Nobody is fighting. There is no war, no fight. There is just them, with unlimited power and influence. We are not combatants in a war against the Illuminati, we are victims in a crime against humanity.
So, by your logic, slaves in America never should have rose up against their masters? They should have just stayed good little slaves but everything is OK because they love and forgive their slave keepers? Do you preach anything that actually has a practical application in the real world?
And don't bring Gandhi into this, I don't think he would support your idea of rolling over and giving into your oppressors, that is not at ALL what he taught. He taught to FIGHT BACK, his means of fighting back just didn't happen to involve guns or swords. What you two are advocating is giving in and accepting slavery. If you like being a slave that's fine by me, but I'll choose another course of action when the time comes.
Originally posted by Mizzijr
Originally posted by faryjay
reply to post by laffoe
How about you go forgive the Illuminati while we all sit here and deal with real issues
LOL aww man, don't be SO hard on him.
Originally posted by faryjay
That's it! ATS can now be shut down coz now we're all gonna forgive every wrong doer in this World ...
No need for conspiracies and fact finding anymore ... The carnage will now end ... Thanks to this Thread
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by James1982
Agreed we need to wake up now
There is nothing soft about this compassion and forgivness
They have done wrong
They did because they didn´t knew better
We choose to forgive them
Because of the strenght of Love
They didn't know better? Are you SERIOUS? If you knew ANYTHING about the Illuminati you would know they known damn well what they are doing. They are pure unadulterated evil. Love and forgiveness won't accomplish anything other than to hasten the demise of freedom and prosperity for people around the globe.
So tell me, what do you think this will accomplish? And I mean in actual terms, do you think the Illuminati will just go public, apologize, and stop what they are doing? I really want to hear what you think this will accomplish. They will not stop simply because we feel a certain way about them. They will only stop when they are STOPPED by force.
The time is not now, it may be months, it may be years, but a time will come where you will have to fight with blood and sweat against these people and their minions, and I'm glad you ousted yourself as someone that won't help so nobody wastes time or resources on you when that day comes.
Originally posted by faryjay
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by faryjay
ATS is here for some great purposes
And nothing will change out of this thread
Things will only change if you make them change
I'd go and forgive them but I'm busy at work right now
Originally posted by sprocket2cog
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by sprocket2cog
Originally posted by martiendejong2
What to do if your enemy keeps taking advantage of you? Keep forgiving?
For the war to stop someone has to be the first to turn the swords into plowshares..
to forgive is divine. Gandhi was a prime example of the fighting with out fighting mantra
Your not getting it either, are you? Nobody is fighting. There is no war, no fight. There is just them, with unlimited power and influence. We are not combatants in a war against the Illuminati, we are victims in a crime against humanity.
So, by your logic, slaves in America never should have rose up against their masters? They should have just stayed good little slaves but everything is OK because they love and forgive their slave keepers? Do you preach anything that actually has a practical application in the real world?
And don't bring Gandhi into this, I don't think he would support your idea of rolling over and giving into your oppressors, that is not at ALL what he taught. He taught to FIGHT BACK, his means of fighting back just didn't happen to involve guns or swords. What you two are advocating is giving in and accepting slavery. If you like being a slave that's fine by me, but I'll choose another course of action when the time comes.
and so the fight continues, you truly dont see my point either thats why i said "fighting" without fighting.. but you go on my place isnt to stop you, im just here for the free food i just see things in a different light to you, it dosnt make either view right or wrong. i cant distill a life time of my experiences into a few posts to please you, so understand that i cant explain my point of view to you its something you experience, not read about.
im not saying fight but choose who or what you fight for. because at the end of the day everyone is a brother under the one god for we are all the children of god..so while you might fight, it is greater to forgive..the choice is yours as is it mine.. you can be a guiding light or a raging fire.. but one will burn out quicker then the other given the same amount of fuel..
enjoy the ride , thats all we are here for.
And its not about what they will do.. in this lifetime, its about the path you choose though the many lifetimes.. its about your choice, not theirs..
edit on 16-5-2011 by sprocket2cog because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Brianegan
Find how this op is correct and you will find how to drop the ego that you wont even admit to being there.
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
S & F for this one.
Don't listen to those not understanding what you are talking about my friend, my brother. You are absolutely right when syaing love and forgiveness is the solution to what is coming up. Simply don't worry, they will awaken a day or another, it is only a matter of time now. With that being said, You got it right and fear is the last thing we should embrace as it is the opposite to love.
Thruthseek3r
Originally posted by James1982
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by James1982
They doesn´t have unlimited powers
Not by far
They are just like boys who have buildt a machine
And think they own the world
They don´t
Nobody does...
We are all truly capable of being Creators
Through Unity
If you want to bring god or religion into this, then no, they don't have unlimited power.
But in the real world, where you life can be ended, where pain can be inflicted, where sorrow and grief can be wielded as a weapon against you, they do have close to unlimited power. Yes, they just built a machine, but that machine is in control of 99% of what happens in the world. You know, issues like whether or not you will have food to eat. Whether or not you will be put in prison, or executed. Whether or not your family will be take from you. They have that power, and I'm much more concerned about that then some supernatural force that, if exists, refuses to ever manifest itself in a manner which would ease the suffering of people.
Originally posted by sprocket2cog
reply to post by thruthseek3r
yep your right mate, there is those who see and those who walk blind, all we can do is be the rear guard in the darkness holding a lamp so they may find the steps they want to follow when no one is left to fight, we can not choose for them, just as we wouldnt want them to choose our path
peace