It's Finally Time to Admit I Was Dead Wrong...

It is always going to be disappointing for anyone who invests that much emotion into voting for a US president.

No matter who you vote for, or who wins... The game was already fixed long before to insure compliance and obedience to the real powers that be in our government.. That is the corporate elite, special interests, lobbyists and the entire military industrial complex... None of whom are elected, but control everything and have all of the power.

Welcome to reality, you helped them elect another puppet.

And IF you ever fall for the illusion of democracy, or believe that you have a choice, or that your vote actually matters in a democratic US presidential election in the future... You will again find yourself equally disappointed.

“If you’re complaining about the price of gas and you’re only getting 8 miles a gallon, you know,” Obama said laughingly. “You might want to think about a trade-in.”

Barack, this comment is beyond disgusting, and you and your wife are severely out of touch with reality. I will not be voting for you.

That's the problem with most politicians nowadays. Gifted salesmen but when push comes to shove they fail miserably.

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit

a future where America is less dependent on foreign oil, more reliant on clean energy produced by workers like you.

Yadda yadda yadda....

Guys, the world is running out of oil.

We are not however. Between North Dakota, Alaska, the Overthrust Belt (Idaho, Utah, Wyoming) and the Rifle, Colorado Oil Shale deposits, we have hundreds of years worth. Then we have hundreds of years worth of Natural Gas. We don't need any oil from anyone else. Never did. It's a trick and Peak Oil is a myth to explain prices.

It's not about Democrats or Republicans, they are the same and we have nothing in common with any of them.

Politicians are all bought and paid for before they are ever elected.

Many of them have multiple terms where allowed.

Most of them have multiple pensions for different 4 year terms and full health care, that most of us couldn't afford even if we made 100k a year.

Every politician has ability to leave office and take all their campaign contributions of millions of dollars and leave Multi-millionaires.

It matters not what political party is in office, they have only to bowed to the people in control, or they will fall on hard times. Simple logic here.

Let's see someone offers us millions or dollars, vacations, extravagance, family taken care of, etc.....but all we have to do is follow their agenda, what choice would most people make?

Come on people "Deny Ignorance"

reply to post by gncnew


I have had to hold my nose and vote for the last several elections.

No one is a real conservative. Just "rinos"

I'm hoping for Ron Paul or Henry Caine.

Caine was the CEO for "Godfathers Pizza". Damn good pizza! Lots of cheese, good bread.

Aint any good pizza in Dallas area. Just chains and small joints that use cans.

Back to the point.

The last time I voted for Bush, i had hoped for a "well, they cant vote me out now! NOW i can fix the border!" ect.

Yeah, well, that didnt happen.

I felt really screwed when there was a choice of McCain and Obama.

Dont feel too bad. They were two gears going the same direction in the same transmission. One one was just a faster gear.

I'm sorta glad Obama got it in a weird way. Its awakened some to the BS going on.

I'd rather it get bad now (with my being young enough still to fight) than 30 years from now with grandkids and a cane.

you were not wrong to vote for obama. he did make promises. what you failed to see was that the two parties in america are just both side of one coin. the difference is very marginal.
i am not even going to address your michelle bashing other then to sugggest we also look at mrs. bushes expense account. while i cannot say for a fact, i am sure her bills were just as high.
next time you vote just remember a vote for republicans or democrats is a vote for status quo. these parties will never bring true change. as long as these parties are in power the rich will get richer most americans will be ignored and congress will just do whatever it pleases.

Originally posted by diamount
That's the problem with most politicians nowadays. Gifted salesmen but when push comes to shove they fail miserably.

Thats actually a problem with the VOTERS, not the politicians.

We vote based on the same kind of crap people care about in high school. Someone we might like to have a beer with, someone who looks a certain way, someone who tells us what we want to hear. Common sense should tell you that what needs to be done to fix this country is going to be painful to you in the short run. But no one wants to suffer, or to have their pet cause put on the back burner to save our nation. So we vote for the person who lies to us in the way we prefer. We choose salesmen and women, not leaders.

reply to post by gncnew


Me too man. I was duped as well, thought Obama seemed different. Never again will I vote for any republican or democrat. Ever. The two party system is a scam, it gives the illusion of choice. Either candidate is a win for the elitist, corporate fat cats. It's time for America to abandon the 2 party scam.

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No offense OP but it sounds like you thought Obama was going to turn America into a Socialist nation and now your disappointed because he hasn't. I for one am damned happy you were "dead wrong"

We've all been wrong to put up with the two-party charade for this long. It's time for REAL change. Out with the elitist fascist puppets of both parties and in with people who actually represent the American people.

Anyone in particular come to mind?

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Well, i am kinda new to this whole politics thing...but have learned a lot since i started paying attention. The last presidential election was the first time i had ever voted for the president. I felt so privileged and that it was my duty to do so and had gone to originally vote for the underdog.

I thought to myself, you know...he would be the perfect first Black American president, with all his ethinic backround, i figured he would be the one....if anyone....that could UNITE America again. The more i listened to his campaign though...i thought...what he says is just too good too be true! I had a gut instinct to not vote for him because of that, USUALLY (Almost ALWAYS,) if it sounds too good to be true it most likely is!

I get to the voteing booths to find that we only have two people to choose from. I pondered for a bit, and knew that No matter who i voted for....it wasn't the right person! I went with McCain, i figured if anyone were to be Commander and Chief it should probably go to someone who has actually served...either way we were screwed though.

I wonder just how rigged the next election is gonna be with all these new voting booths!?

We learn our lessons as Human beings by making the mistakes. Now we need to unite and fix it...some how...some way!! I am tired of the politicians trying to keep us divided and succeeding at doing so!

Bet you anything he finds some way to call martial law before we even have a chance to get to the booths!

Ron Paul/rand Paul 2012 hope they don't disappoint

Oh, ya: Ps. If i were president i would feel it was my duty as an American to serve my country with out having to be paid, as long as there was a roof over my head, food on the table, heat/electric paid, and health care paid for(which comes with the job, anyway) for NO PAY CHECK. If anything...if Americans liked the job i did and they voted on it and wanted to give a retirement to me...that would be a great incentive as to doing a wonderful job serving and protecting our beautiful country and constitution.

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
When I saw George Bush Jr. elected TWICE, I knew without a doubt that the voting system was manipulated and controlled. No doubt. I don't know how people still have any faith left in the system of (s)elections being even slightly honest.

Let because you personally don't like Bush and you probably run in social circles of like-minded people, doesn't mean he isn't poplar in other regions. And others, like myself, weren't particularly thrilled with the idea of another Bush term but saw tariff-supporting Kerry as a worse option.

Obama has a good shot at winning 2012. He's a lousy president but a marvelous campaigner.

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I dont agree with Ron Paul on every single issue, but I trust his integrity, I believe he wants to restore our nation and protect the Constitution, AND he also is one of the few experienced politicians who has managed not to be bought out. So he withstands corruption well and has experience too.

He is my first choice.

reply to post by gncnew


What you were wrong about was to believe that a different party would be any different. There is NO difference, because they work for the same puppeteers and will pursue the same agenda. Reps and Dems are EXACTLY the same, they do EXACTLY the same things but just use a different rhetoric, which is all lies anyway, whichever one is in power.

Originally posted by Helious
reply to post by gncnew

 

No offense OP but it sounds like you thought Obama was going to turn America into a Socialist nation and now your disappointed because he hasn't. I for one am damned happy you were "dead wrong"

^THIS^

Leftists are butthurt. Obama turned out to be too pragmatic even for them.

OP
If your waiting for the day that a president changes things [which is how they get you to vote for them, duhh....?] I believe you will be waiting awhile.

Its not the president that is the problem, it is the powers that influence the president to do the same thing. Bush was an idiot, and hes not even smart enough to understand what he is doing, but the people telling him to do it do.

So change will never come via president, it will either be due to civil war, man caused/natural disasters, or some new technology that fixes everything.

Face it, money is the bottom line, no matter what president you vote for.

To the OP, I could not have expressed it better. The American people were bamboozled and tricked by a slight of hand and a warm smile. I only hope that in 2012 people don't fall for it again. The new repubs are right this time. If we don't cut spending the kids future we'll have no future.

reply to post by The Benevolent Adversary


Key difference between Michelle Obama and Laura Bush, Michelle flaunts it alot more. She loves the limelight just as much as Barry. Laura Bush took a backseat and kept her dignity. Laura didn't PUBLICLY jetset around the world on taxpaying American's dime. Remember when Michelle wanted to go to the local Farmers market and took her entourage of 50 or so secret service people with her, and their vehicles? Laura had class, Michelle has none.

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The most I could add is kudos for admitting you are wrong. But I'm surprised that you were surprised.

What I don't understand is why ANYONE, not just the O.P., would think ANY politician would be able to effect positive change for the "commoners".