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It's Finally Time to Admit I Was Dead Wrong...

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 06:56 PM

a future where America is less dependent on foreign oil, more reliant on clean energy produced by workers like you.

Yadda yadda yadda....

Guys, the world is running out of oil. If people can't see the mirrors then they need to open their eyes a bit more.

Expect more of this in the future, and up to 2050.

In Europe they keep talking of reducing CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050 - strange considering that if we do nothing between now and then to reduce the use of oil that we will run out and be totally screwed (and coincidentally - NOT - that date is approximately 2050).

A bombshell that was dropped in the last few weeks is that the oil reserves in Saudi Arabia are some 30% smaller than reported. They think the discrepancy is the result of Saudi Arabia trying to attract more investment. They are unsure if other countries are doing similar things. If so, the situation is worse than they already thought.

I don't mind finding and using alternative energy - no probs with that - but what I POSITIVELY HATE are the lies being told to try and persuade people to do something. It is NOT about the climate. It is about OIL.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by hawaii50th

Care to elaborate? How is it we as Americans are spoiled? This I gotta hear?

Is it because we have pride, in our homes, cars etc? You define pride as spoiled children? Is that a correct synopsis?
edit on 7-4-2011 by Whereweheaded because: (no reason given)

Freedom is taken for granted. For starters, many are caught up in the latest trends, to much attention is geared in the wrong pursuits of happiness and wants, entertainment is what's more important than what's most important.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 06:59 PM
reply to post by hawaii50th

I will concede that you are correct. Instead of living humbly, our citizenry do take things for granted. Thank you for responding with intelligence. Others tend to get offended by simply asking a question.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Praetorius

And don't worry about the media saying "Oh, so-and-so can't win". When they say that, that's exactly what they're TRYING to accomplish. If everyone votes their conscience for the best candidate out there, regardless of what they're told, you'd be surprised who can win.

Bingo. What was the politician that was doing fantastic til the media unleashed the scream heard round the world?

His whole run was torpedoed by the media, even though he was getting TONS of grass roots support and contributions off the internet. He tried to bypass the media and use the internet, and the media nuked him anyway over a stupid scream.

But technically, its us. Voters are stupid.

And Im proud of the OP for admitting he was wrong. I personally did not understand why Obama getting busted out over that memo to Canada did not clue you guys in, but oh well. Hopefully, its not too late.

Use your freaking brains, people, not your heart. If you catch your politician LYING on the campaign trail and straight up telling a foreign leader his loyalty is to him not the voters, thats a clue.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:03 PM

Originally posted by TriForce
reply to post by gncnew

If it makes you fell any better, which i doubt, I dont believe that it matters who is in office. I believe that the President of the US and most other foreign Presidents, answer to a higher authority.
Call it Illuminati, Bohemian Club, Bilderbergers or the Masons, I dont know, who it is and it doesnt really matter because there is nothing that can be done about it.
I believe that this was happening slowly (frog in boiling water) up until the beginning of the the decade but then they got impatient and decided to put it in the "fast trac"

No, i have no proof, yes it is all speculation but it is what I believe, so take it for what its worth.

There's been word for decades that within the secret worldwide cabal (whatever's their name) they had a big agenda to bring their new order at the beginning of this millennium. Look everywhere from the conspiracy theories on the Elders of Zion to William Cooper's claims... there's many evidence out there about it...

And this actually happened!

Bush and his cabal of corporate gangsters took over the White House in a Coup at the end of year 2000, and it took only a few months for them to hijack the entire legislative power (Congress and Senate) and enforce the new global Police State with the false flag of 9/11. From this moment, many foreign governments went through unprecedented REGIME CHANGES, a new common enemy was designated and civil liberties got trashed in the name of national security. That's also the point from which the Fed, through its kingpin Greenspan, began its economical endgame of hyperinflation of the debt bubble, mainly through forcing low interests rates on the dollar.

Furthermore, Obama has risen during the Bush years. He's a PRODUCT of the failed state that USA has become.

I though their New World Order as being an evolution of human society... but it's more like going back to the Dark Ages.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:06 PM
reply to post by gncnew

Next time don't vote, it doesn't count anyway. It's not your fault, most people don.t know the pres is hand pick long before the election.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:11 PM
The whole "maybe you should consider trading in your eight mile per gallon car for a new one" really got to me. I'm pretty sure there are very few cars or trucks that have that mpg still on the road. Even if that was the case I was reading some comments on the story from another site and somebody brought up a good point. Hybrid cars still need fuel and at $4,5,6 dollars a gallon that would severly damage an already unstable ecomony. I really think he does'nt get it. If he opened the strategic oil reserve it would have an almost instant effect on oil prices. He says he can't do anything but he most certainly can!!

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
The same election system process is the same in eupore and elsewhere basically you can vote but your vote is meaningless.

The elites already know who to choice.

Wow… one of the few posters on this conspiracy forum who know about the age-old conspiracy of the global elite’s total control over western politicians. Some have been members of this “conspiracy” forum since 2004 and they still haven’t figured out that politicians are just puppets who run absolutely nothing.

I gave you a star for your purely conspiratorial view in the true spirit of a conspiracy discussion forum. You’ll just have keep trying to disclose this age-old “above top secret” conspiracy on this “Above Top Secret” forum while many go on with their “rearranging the chairs on the Titanic” facade.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:19 PM
I with you OP...

Funny though, at the end of the campaign trail I knew in my heart that I had been duped and voted anyway...hoping for hope I guess. In the end, I no longer believe it matters who we vote for; something happens to them after that first briefing...every time!!!

I think they must remove a portion of the brain in there. The part with any common sense, or concern for the little people.

Its the end of an Empire...

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:19 PM
Let's see, since they had a nice chunk of coin before he even took the oath means that their private bank accounts paid for it and not the taxpayer.

The only thing the taxpayer remains on the till for is anything pertaining to the security of the First Family.

This entire play is being orchestrating this entire mess from the getgo and to blame Obama for it means you are disinfranchised and misinformed.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:21 PM
Your mistake was not realising the country was in a tailspin already - as you said. A monkey could be running the country and it would still be in the same state as it has nothing to do with Obama and more to do with the past not being able to affect the present. A Republican would be being vilified now if they had won. It's all the same.

Why are Americans so dull in this regard.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:25 PM
Bacrap is led by the bankers, period. The fed owns the USA and it wont change until 200,000,000 pissed off Americans storm the capital and burn it to the ground.

But because we are so addicted to American Idol, Doritos, and coca cola we wont.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:37 PM
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander

You know that was so tragic (did you know that wrecking Dean's chances was engineered by none other than Robert? Gibbs, Obama's WH spokesman, and that the audio was, itself, tweaked? The people in the room didn't even hear it). I remained somewhat a Deaniac right up until he 180 degrees capitulated on Obamacare. I have no respect left for him.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:38 PM

Originally posted by itsatrap
Did you actually expect him to fix all of our problems in one 4yr term? How naive are you, it took way longer than that to get us into this mess.

And *gasp* he actually said you don't have a right to complain about gas when you drive a gas guzzling behemoth? The man calls for accountability and you get offended?

Obama didn't drive this country into the ground, we did, through inaction, complacency, and only looking out for our own self interest instead of looking at the big picture. Nothing in this world happens in a vacuum, yet everyone wants to pretend that it does. Before obama we had bush, who managed to turn the entire world against us after we had all of their support following 9/11...say what you will about bush, that takes serious talent. Before bush was clinton, who spent practically his entire 2 terms in scandal. And before clinton you had bush sr.and reagan who basically gave this country to the corporations.

But in the end you know who's fault it really is?

OURS, the american people are to blame because we let it all happen right in front of our faces with no more protest than the slightest of whimpers.

Man up, take responsibility for your actions, or at least quit placing the blame on others. Now take your hummer home tonight, pick up some mcdonalds slop(with the free apple pie), park the sob in your mcmansion driveway, take your viagra, screw your plastic surgery wife after she takes her painpill/cocktail combo, watch your"reality" shows, and then wake up in the morning to go find someone else to blame for your problems.

So TRue!

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:40 PM
reply to post by gncnew

All I can say is that I commend you for swallowing your pride and admitting it. 99% of people who we have all warned and even fought on here will never do that. It takes a strong person to admit something like that and because you have admitted it, guess what......your eyes are now open to a new vision. It's not a pretty vision, it never is, but you will now be able to forsee events even before they happen because of this newfound awareness. It is the lockdown of ones consciousness that keeps the mind from expanding. Expansion of the mind is learning. This is why the elites do what they do to condition the mind to be lazy and to believe lies. Every day the world is innundated with symbols, commercials, Ads on the internet, political pundits trained in deception, news stations that are bought and paid for such as CNN, MSNBC, FOX (you know the ones I speak of), teachers in schools who don't even know that they are teaching historical lies out of books created by those decievers, Internet videos, a two party system which is no less than a "divide and conquer" paradigm, Presidents and politicians who have a royal lineage and a blood line that is taut for centuries past. See Here, which is why voting is an illusion and to believe the American Dream means you really have to be asleep. You are now awake. Whether you like it or not you are one of us. We are the truly enlightened and unfortunately, so are the elites.......but WE are the good guys. The movies say the good guys always win, but as we are awake, don't be decieved, we can only hope that more like you will awaken because the army of the elites have been complete for some time. We have more people, but just a handful who know what's really going on and are aware to what their true agenda is against us. Welcome to the Matrix. This reality is frightening and frustrating, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I at least know I won't die a fool.
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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:41 PM
reply to post by gncnew

Nice, you hit it right on head. I can't remember exactly when the honeymoon ended, but it might have after he selected his cabinet and there were lobbyists selected.
Great posts to read here, I'm on page 3 and have laughed out loud a lot. Thanks for that.

I too voted for him, feces milkshake vs syphilitic whore hmmmmm, it seemed like the right call at the time?!
Now maybe that syphilitic whore is lookin' a little hotter.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:42 PM
reply to post by gncnew

really bud
i know you findin it tough, but compared to the way most peeps in the world live, you got it good. the world is experiencing a little economic adjustment is all. you think it matter who is in power. your country is broke atm and you got food to eat and a roof over your head. look at what you have got in life and you will be rich. look at what you havnt got and you will be poor.

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posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:43 PM
I have not read any of the comments, but only the original post.

But, I must say that Jesse Ventura is correct when he said "stop voting for Democrats and Republicans".

They are two sides of the same corporate owned coin.

posted on Apr, 7 2011 @ 07:51 PM
reply to post by gncnew

Admitting is the first step to recovery.

Independents are what's happening.

And remember, Obama was selected not elected. He's merely a puppet on a string. It's those we don't see who should scare you s***less.
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