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Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by BillMaherFan816
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984
I agree, well said, what a D-bag this person is
This is unfair, the OP is not a D-bag as you call him/her, just someone who maybe didn't think through their position. It is very common that people abandon their ideas of freedom for all when something annoys them. For some people it's smokers, other people it's drug addicts and others hate gay people.
Hatred destroys clarity.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Travlla
Let's be clear here... Not supporting people who put their addiction to a proven unhealthy substance ahead of the health and welfare of their children is a d-bag? OK, then I'm a d-bag... feel free to toss a couple of packs of Pall Mall unfiltered into your kid's Christmas Stocking... Who am I to say it's wrong? That would be such a d-bag thing to do, after all... I swear, reading this thread is like watching a really pathetic episode of A & E's Intervention ...
Originally posted by Travlla
So it's unfair to label the OP a D-bag,but he can label all 1.3 billion of the worlds smokers unfit parents ? really is that what you are saying ?
Originally posted by Rastus3663
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
BS; what would you say the rate of Parkinson's disease among smokers vs. non-smokers? You should do real research instead of repeating someone else's talking points. And you run an advice column? LOL!!!
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by Travlla
So it's unfair to label the OP a D-bag,but he can label all 1.3 billion of the worlds smokers unfit parents ? really is that what you are saying ?
No it isn't and my post clearly reflects that is not what i was saying, i think you need to step back and calm down because i already disagreed strongly with the OP. So you're basically attacking a person who is on the side of smoking parents.
I'll say it again, the OP has taken a far too extreme stance on this issue.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by Travlla
So it's unfair to label the OP a D-bag,but he can label all 1.3 billion of the worlds smokers unfit parents ? really is that what you are saying ?
No it isn't and my post clearly reflects that is not what i was saying, i think you need to step back and calm down because i already disagreed strongly with the OP. So you're basically attacking a person who is on the side of smoking parents.
I'll say it again, the OP has taken a far too extreme stance on this issue.
T,o call someone a d-bag because they call smokers an unfit parent is wrong because they have just gone a bit far with their view doesn't make them such a thing. Likewise it was wrong of the OP to call people unfit parents just because they smoke.
Is my position now clear enough for you? Or do you want to recklessly throw around further insults?edit on 22-2-2011 by ImaginaryReality1984 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Rastus3663
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984
The point is that he incorrectly claimed that there was not one positive use for tobacco; not only was he wrong, he has unwittingly expanded his tirade against smoking tobacco to deploring the use of it all together. Tobacco has other uses such as obtaining nicotine sulfate for use in insecticides and nicotine tartrate, which is used in some medicines. Personally, I'll consider quitting when I'm no longer in danger of being shot or running over an IED.
...conducted by M.C. Mahoney, et al., of the New York State Department of Health, using data from Native Americans in upstate New York, during the time period 1980-86. It is published in the Int J Epidemiology, June, 1989, 18 (2) 403-412. The authors came to the same conclusion as Samet, et al. They stated that the principal causes of death among the Native Americans were TB, diabetes, pneumonia and cirrhosis. However, "fewer than expected malignant deaths occurred among both Native males and females [and]... A deficit of deaths was observed for colon and lung cancer deaths among Native males and for colon and breast cancer deaths among Native Females...".
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by monkeykillingmonkey
They really don't give a crap how much the smell or the smoke bothers others as long as they get their fix.
It's commonplace in alcoholics and drug addicts as well.