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Originally posted by firepilot
That is an Airbus A340 airliner, by the way.
Do you really think airplanes flying up high, are responsible for ground level air pollution? Aircraft flying at that altitude, are actually at their least polluting point I would think. And "chemtrails" is not about normal airplane exhaust either
Nobody does cloud seeding with barium or aluminum either, its done with small amounts of silver iodide inside of rain/snow storms, and not with visible trails.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by firepilot
That is an Airbus A340 airliner, by the way.
Do you really think airplanes flying up high, are responsible for ground level air pollution? Aircraft flying at that altitude, are actually at their least polluting point I would think. And "chemtrails" is not about normal airplane exhaust either
Nobody does cloud seeding with barium or aluminum either, its done with small amounts of silver iodide inside of rain/snow storms, and not with visible trails.
Sure...whatever goes up must eventually come down...how long it takes is irrellevant imo.
As for the cloud seeding theory, if true, they would use specialised airplanes with nozzles fitted somewhere on the airplanes fuselage. I have seen a few pictures of such planes but getting a hold of them has escaped me.
And if you think they don't use barium&aluminum why are large traces of both found constantly at some places? Everyone is so aluminum happy these days..its quite mind boggling! I am old fashioned and prefer steel...
And if you think they don't use barium&aluminum why are large traces of both found constantly at some places?
They are purported to be aluminum and boron, cloud seeding.
Sure...whatever goes up must eventually come down...how long it takes is irrellevant imo.
As for the cloud seeding theory...
if true, they would use specialised airplanes with nozzles fitted somewhere on the airplanes fuselage.
... I have seen a few pictures of such planes but getting a hold of them has escaped me.
Originally posted by firepilot
I have yet to see a chemtrailer ever criticize one of these sites for wrong information, its like some unspoken code they have, not to criticize each others ideas or statements or websites, no matter how wrong they may be.
Originally posted by network dude
I'll make a deal with you. If you honestly care to learn, I will put you on to a weatherman who can interpret weather balloon data and tell you if you will see contails and at what altitude before you say weather you have seen them. Is that fair enough?
Originally posted by network dude
I have been amazed at the varying answers I get when asking about chemtrails. These people cannot agree on anything. I guess since science seems to be on the side of sanity and that the lines in the sky are called contrails, it stands to reason that the story might change a bit from person to person.
For those who don't know about this myth, here is how it goes:
If a line left behind a plane lasts for longer than 20 minutes, it's a chemtrail. It if dissipates before the 20 minute mark, it's a contrail.
But when faced with facts about weather conditions, this theory falls apart. Once that is gone, exactly what is left of this theory?
I have asked countless numbers of people who believe in this myth to share their views with me. Some say that it happens in every major city in the world. I have even been told of the exact year this phenomenon started. Unfortunately, that date changes from person to person. By 10-15 years. The amount of spraying varies from almost every day in every major city, to only sometimes.
What do they do? That seems to be the million dollar question. nobody can pinpoint any affects. Do they cause mass illness? nope, not that anyone can verify. Do they kill people? nope, not that anyone can verify. Are they to combat global warming? well, I think we should first agree if global warming is man made, or a natural cycle before we try to adjust mother nature. Is that the reason they exist? some might say so. some may not.
There is no uniformity with this conspiracy. Nobody seems to be able to agree on anything other then someone must be hiding something. When I look up the word paranoid, it's definition sounds eerily familiar.
Now, I believe you are ill-informed...there has been substantial proof that whatever it is has high amounts of aluminum
As part of the normal farming routine there have been soil tests carried out to determine if there should be any corrective measures taken to adjust the soil conditions.
Our interest in the level of aluminum is related to the fact that there have been numerous reports of various aluminum compounds being found in the "chemtrails" that are being constantly sprayed. Just search Google for chemtrails + aluminum or aluminium: Google search - the list of results is extensive!
The aluminum reading that had been reported in our ten local soil tests ranged from a high of 1692 ppm (parts per million) to a low of 712 ppm - and that lowest one happened to be the Holmestead field. The average of all ten fields was 1247 ppm which is in the "Very High" range of the above published Aluminum Rating.
The typical range of aluminum in soils may be from 1 percent to 30 percent on a worldwide basis with naturally occurring concentrations varying greatly.
This same agronomist seemed unable to give a simple, direct answer to my question of what is considered to be the traditional historical background level of naturally occurring aluminum in agricultural soils although one page on the web site of his laboratory had the following statement along with an illustration with specific figures: "Aluminum greater than 400 ppm is a problem for most growing plants. The primary target for aluminum is the root cap. Therefore, it has a major impact on root growth and efficiency."
Corundum for abrasives is mined in Zimbabwe, Russia, and India. Historically it was mined from deposits associated with dunites in North Carolina, USA and from a nepheline syenite in Craigmont, Ontario.
The subject of natural occurring aluminum (oxide) is complex as aluminum is the most commonly occurring metallic element and it is estimated to comprise eight percent of the earth's crust. It is a major component of almost all common inorganic soil particles, with the exceptions of quartz sand, chert fragments, and ferromanganiferous concretions.
Now, I believe you are ill-informed