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1.) With the casting of spells and performance of rituals, what are some different examples of "things" that can be accomplished?
2.) What is the thing that gives power to the spells and rituals?
3.) Where does an individual draw power from?
"Many mineral lives join together to create one plant life, many plant lives join to create the new animal life, and a number of animal lives may fuse to create one human. To enter the kingdom of God numerous humans unite in Molecular Relationships and create lives greater than themselves. (Read my book on "The Molecular Relationship" for a full explanation of this.) What you are as a human has always been, but in the past that which makes up you as a being has been fragmented. In the beginning these fragments entered the mineral kingdom. After these tiny parts of yourself experienced all they could there they joined and entered the plant kingdom. Later theses larger fragments joined other fragments and entered the animals. Finally these still larger fragments fused and you resumed your human form. Nevertheless, you are still not complete. There are other fragments of you out there who are awaiting the joining. When you link up with them you eventually overcome death and enter the Kingdom of God. Finally, when all the fragments of the One Great Life whom we call God have linked up then all of us will see ourselves as a part of a greater whole. In this process you never lose that part which is "you" just as in putting together a car the wheel is still a wheel, but when you have the complete car assembled you do not call it a wheel, but a car. Even though all of us are fragments of God, those who are immediate fragments of ourselves are limited in number. Each of us has at least one teacher somewhere, either on this earth, or in the worlds of Spirit who is a more experienced fragment of ourselves. Then there will be another to whom you will be the teacher who is a lower fragment of yourself. The joining of the fragments, or becoming more than you are alone produces your next major step. When you entered the human kingdom you linked up with a higher part of yourself and came to an amazing realization. One day it dawned on you that you are a human and that you are different from every other living thing. You comprehended that you not only looked different from a physical angle, but that there was a different person with a different character within your body than there were within other bodies. This was the day that you entered into Class One of human existence."
Originally posted by jonnyc55
Could anyone care to tell me more on demons and the summoning of them. I find them interesting since I've read and heard a lot of poltergeist activities and stories over the net and from people I've spoken too.
Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
reply to post by Wandering Scribe
Spoken true,
For help with a visualization - Yoda said it right.
Try not to judge it as a science fiction film, listen to the words and see how it applies to your reality.
Originally posted by jonnyc55
Could anyone care to tell me more on demons and the summoning of them. I find them interesting since I've read and heard a lot of poltergeist activities and stories over the net and from people I've spoken too.
Originally posted by DrJay1975
I guess my background offers something a smidge different and I'm glad to see a communal collection of this sort. My paranormal experiences started when I died twice as a child. My father decided to cure me of a seafood allergy by immersion in the allergen. Ever since then it released my spiritual energy and gave me some unique abilities. I started seeing "ghosts". I started seeing darker entities. I spent most of my childhood and teenage years honing my abilities, studying theology and the occult. Possession particularly interested me, thanks William Peter Blatty. But then I learned about psychological disorders that mimic possession. Which made me want to become a psychologist.
I was a Catholic but found my faith waning do to inconsistencies in the Bible. So I began to delve deeper into studies of the occult. I had an experience with a ritual demon summoning(as a witness) at age 18. I came to the conclusion that if creatures like that exists then God must exist.
To follow up on possession I took a trip to the exorcism capitol of the world at the time, the Kenyan Catholic missions. I served as consult on several church sanctioned exorcisms. What I saw shook me to my core. I began to study different religions and their rites of exorcisms. I've witnessed exorcisms from almost a dozen different religous practices.
I decided I wanted to head up my own investigative team since I thought I had a unique perspective and an appreciation for the scientiffic method that no other paranormal group seemed to have. Long story short, after many years here are some truths that I learned.
There are several types of human hauntings. Residual, intelligent(benign), intelligent(benevolent), intelligent(malevolent) and intelligent evolved. The 1st 3 are self explanatory. The last was different. Human spirits that didn't have access to a particular version of the heaven, that through ancestoral spirit worship, assuming the identity of a local demigod etc.... Gain power through fear, worship etc.... Human spirits that became more than basic human spirits. Powerful. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Sometimes beholden to a particular religion or belief structure, sometimes not. Some of these spirits predate modern religion. And can't be contained using the methods of modern religions.
Demons exist. Most religions have their own demons. An Islaamic exorcism won't work on a Christian demon and so on and so forth. Christians get a sense of entitlement because by callin on Jesus to cast out demons through a priest works on the majority of your possession and obsession cases. Why? Well, not because Christianity is the be all end all, but because Jesus was recognized in many religions, at the very least as a prophet and/or exorcist. The greatest exorcist of all time. So allowing Jesus to cast out demons of Jewish, Christian, Islaam and hindu religions through a priest is effective. After years of studying demonology the scariest I've seen are the old ones. That predate humanity and possibly the earth alltogether. They are almost impossible to bind, contain or destroy and can not be subdued by any known religion. You are their food. Or rather your essence.
Possession is real. Out of 1000 cases maybe 99% + are mental illness. Mental illness doesn't eliminate possession, they can go hand in hand. But most cases are diagnosable by a competent mental health profesional. Problem is these deliverance ministries making a mockery out of something entirely real. And if you are ever unfortunate enough to witness someone truely possessed, that reallly meets the Church's criteria to perform the Roman rite, you'd hide under your covers and be in mass every morning.
I mentioned something to Woody in another thread. Pope Honorius created a grimoire of his own. He blended Catholicism with various occult practices because he recognized that one religion could not fight all of the evil in this world alone. He recognized things that were considered heretical. But what he did was create the foundation for effective spiritual warfare.
Why most people don't see ghosts? Low spiritual energy. If you have little to no spiritual energy you'll never see a spirit. In fact you'll be lucky if you ever sense them. Advantage? You don't see them and most of the time they ignore you. For a spirit or a demon to maintain it's existence on this side of the veil it has to feed on something if it stays for an extended period or if it wishes to manifest in a physical manner. And they look for people with high spiritual energy. And in spiritual combat the higher spiritual pressure wins. And when dealing with a demon if you don't get assistance you'll lose.
Why don't we see spirits, ghosts, demons meandering about all the time? Different planes. There is a veil that separates the physical world and the spiritual world. How do they cross over into our realm? A couple of ways. There are locations where the veil is thin and spirits can pass through like a revolving door. Or, a spirit or demon of significantly strong spiritual energy can punch a hole through the veil at any location.
Auras, are they real? What about the people who see them? Yes and yes. If your spiritual enrgy is high enough you emit an aura that others with above average spiritual enregy can see. Sometimes it's huge, if you can't control it. Sometimes it's tight and well defined, for those with control. And many people who "claim" to see auras are actually suffering from synesthesia. They can also see music. Taste colors, etc... Weird disorder.
Psychics. There are true psychics, but define what psychic is. You can have high spiritual enrgy and not be psychic. Most psychics are bogus. Some can actually see spirits and communicate with them. Most that are not fake are empathic. I'll use several well known examples. John Edward. Con artist. Michelle Bellanger. She's on paranormal state sometimes. She's mildly competent. I've met her a few times. She misses much more than she hits. And Chip Coffey. Now, my group has worked with Chip on numerous occasions and I'll vouch for Chip. He's a fame whore but he's legit. When we've worked with him he's amazed me. He has an above average amount of spiritual energy. On a scale of zero to 10 the average human is a 0.1. You need to be about a 3 to even percieve the paranormal in any capacity. To see spiritual entities that aren't obscenely strong you need to be about a 7.5. Chip is probably a 7. But he's honed his spiritual energy to a razor edge. And as an empath and a tactile psychic he's 80% or better. True psychics aren't mind readers. They are empaths.
EVP's. Never seen one I believed was legit. Think about the barrage of tv, radio, cell, shortwave, cb, radiation bouncing around our atmosphere. It's not a stretch that a human won't hear something but it will show up on tape. I can sit outside your home in a tractor trailer with a CB radio and speak to you through any speaker in your house, plugged in or not. Disembodied voices that are caught have credibility if captured in a controlled environment in a scientiffic manner.
Orbs. BS. Maybe 1 out of 100,000 orb photos is actually spiritual energy. You show me your orb and within a couple days I can easily identify and duplicate it with something natural. Pollen is a common culprit in photos. Bugs on video.
Can I increase my spiritual energy? Psychic ability? Not really. Dying and returning can release your latent spirtual energy. But you have what you have unless you sort out how to steal it from someone/something else. As far as psychic abilities, you can hone your skills, but if you aren't empathic then you aren't empathic.
What about the people who astral project and communicate with aliens? LOL. I'm very empathic and I can pick up on strong thoughts rooted in emotion. I can even communicate a simple thought to someone else. But that last but is hard when they are in the same room. Try doing it 1000 light years away while traveling at an effective speed of 50,000 mph. It would be like trying to shoot an atom in china while your in a cave in mexico using a blowgun while blindfolded with fire ants biting your feet. It's total BS.
Lastly I will say this. There are more than 1,000,000 different combinations to win a game of chess. All religions have their merits in spiritual warfare. Wicca, VooDoo, Catholocism, Druids, Hindus, Islaam, Judiasm, etc.... But when engaging an entity it''s the highest spiritual energy that wins most of the time. That'swhy the Catholic Church still uses charismatics. Yup, they still allow a few individuals of high spiritual energy to be exorcists. Sometimes a charismatic uses the Roman Rite but it isn't required. Most of the time a charismatic doesn't even have to call on Jesus to exorcise the demon. His/her spiritual pressure is simply so high that he can force a demon or spirit out through sheer power. Now if you have a charismatic that is versed in the rites of multiple religions you have a weapon. If he/she has studied various religions and understands them, then they are more impressive. If they study demonology, all the better. Respect all. Harm none. Forgive those who wrong you and yourself for those you've wronged. Respect all. And to quote Sun Tzu, do not fight a battle that you can't win. Get someone who can. Know your limitations.