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Originally posted by starrider
reply to post by frozenspark
It angers me to no end when I hear people make senseless comments about the Masons. A lot of you who choose to spout negative comments regtarding the Masons need to do your homework before you speak. You are not giving the Masons a bad name by what you say; you are giving yourselves a bad name and showing your ignorance of the subject. Please, stop spouting ignorance and start learning.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Doesn't it make sense that a group of men bound by a high moral code well-versed in history, politics, and under obligation to live and act as an upright and just man and mason, using charity and brotherly love as their motivation should be in important positions in the community? If not Masons, then who would you suggest could do it better?
Originally posted by under_topsecret
Btw, Masons had plenty of time and oportunity to point finger at unjustice with usury and "making money from nothing", to help people. And they never did that.
Fear and jealousy, more than anything else. People fear that which they don't know. If something goes on in private, by definition, someone, somewhere is going to think it's bad, simply because they don't KNOW otherwise. Likewise, people Freemasonry has rejected will loudly denounce it. Also, some strictly organized religions, such as the Catholic Church, see Freemasonry as a threat to the stranglehold they have over their followers. This is the same reaction that tyrants and dictators have had to Masonry. (Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam Hussein, etc...)
Originally posted by TheKnave
I have to ask if "real" Masons are the loving altruistic orginazation that I am hearing about here then how did all the Lucifarian/Evil conceptions get started in the first place?
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Are you a Mason?
How would you know how difficult it is or isn't to become one and move up the ranks? First of all, there is no such thing as a 33rd Degree Mason. There are only 3 degrees in Masonry. Everything after that is part of the appendent bodies, such as Scottish Rite. You can become the Grand Master of the state without ever having more than 3 degrees of Masonry!
Also, Masons police themselves. We have "Masonic Charges" that can be brought against any member acting inappropriately, and they can be barred from the fraternity.
Also, Masons undergo background checks and interviews even before being allowed to take the first step into Masonry. At each subsequent step along the way, they are questioned about their intentions and obligations.
Originally posted by seridium
Well I am tired of reading people bashing an org they have no idea about, but they sure like to rant and insinuate that they are luciferian by design and so forth which is just nonsense and something that was learned from non sense or some website of a angry individual that has nothing else better to do that not worry about himself, people tend to dwell on things and you knwo when you dwell on anything it will either become an obssesion or a depression, there are som many websites with people opinons that have no creditabilty whatsoever to their outlandish claims, if your going to try and slander something or someone or a organisation at least have proof.
I myself am not a Mason but my Godfather is one, he is a kind man with agreat family, he does not work for any sisnter company other than his own window business, he doesnt worhsip satan in his spare time in secret he does however attend logde meeting 2 times a month and helps out the community and offer charities for the needy with his lodge brothers.
So my question here is for the Masons that frequent these boards and the question is this...
On a side note if you go back to my first posts I must say I thought the same thing most peopel do about Masons which in time I have "learned" to be false and dis info I would also like to thank, Masonic Light, TrinityMan and EdenKaia thanks for helping me learn what is right and what is wrong with the way I ranted garbage, much appreciated!
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
To say that you must become a Freemason to enjoy such dubious benefits is bordering on propaganda.
Originally posted by frozenspark
reply to post by network dude
What I want to know is your opinion or knowledge about Templars and that they long ago "infiltrated" Scottish rite, and at the very top subverted the organization to Satanism. I don't know how accurate this is, but many sources lead me to believe that this is the case... a secret society WITHIN a secret society.
[edit on 26-8-2010 by frozenspark]