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Originally posted by artistpoet
If you imagine the the torment the souls of those who perpetrate evil must suffer - would you stand in their shoes.
As Hidden Hand pointed out they would have to play out their Karma - I truly wish them well and good speed in finding their way home when the time comes.
Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by Annee
I already backed away. There's no arguing with him. I wished him good luck on his quest.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless
My concern is not rewards for in 'reaching home or heaven'.
My concern is offering myself to be of use to the ones still struggling with things of Earth. I have no desire for 'self salvation'....I am only concerned with all returning and until then, I will offer myself for the Spirit to work through me.
You encourage others to continue on the path of self and to do things to seek rewards. The path of self (a self reaching heaven) is not the highest path and not the path Jesus was here for. Seeking or accepting a path for rewards or self gain is not Spiritual intentions for all souls.
So I stay...and will continue to stay, for my other selves. Be it the role of victim or be in the role of an aid...it does not matter, what ever the Spirit is needing me to be.
No book and no man could of 'gave' me this understanding.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Originally posted by artistpoet
If you imagine the the torment the souls of those who perpetrate evil must suffer - would you stand in their shoes.
As Hidden Hand pointed out they would have to play out their Karma - I truly wish them well and good speed in finding their way home when the time comes.
Yes...being willing to offer yourself in the role of a victim is something that a person would not do unless there was deep understanding of it helping the Divine Plan of all learning what they are in need of.
Hidden Hand claimed to be negative, offering the world the negative that was needed, out of love for us.
I dont think any being offers to be negative, out of love. But that is just my perspective of hidden hand. I feel if a being is negative vibration, they have yet to learn love.
When one can live more for the life of Spirit then of flesh, offering one's self to the role of as a victim is helping another self a moment to look in the mirror of love. To know after leaving the body complex, that a part of you offered itself to teach you and show you something, is of high worth and value in things of Spirit.
edit on 17-9-2010 by LeoVirgo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless
I will not step away.
Originally posted by OneisOne
reply to post by AdonaiChristBless
Wow..... You are just FULL of yourself aren't you?
I am going to stand up for LeoVirgo here and say he/she has inspired me more than your "holy than thou" attitude ever will. Leo/Virgo has brought some real discussion to this thread and has been more than nice to you.
You promised several pages back to leave this thread because we were hopeless. All you are doing now is trying to promote your website. Please just buy an ad & stop harassing the other, kinder people on this thread.
And do not bother telling me I'm unworthy or goo or unenlightened or un-havestable or damned..........
You would just be wasting time. I know I am all of the above and I LOVE that about me! I have so much to learn and I'm gonna enjoy every minute of it.
We request you do not speak to us until do as requested
Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by Annee
Yeah, I'm not going to fall for it again. He says he will leave, but he keeps coming back just to comment on how superior his knowledge is and how everyone who doesn't accept his words is doomed. I'll just ignore him, as there's no getting to him.
Originally posted by phoenix_zephyr
We request you do not speak to us until do as requested
Phew, that's some serious arrogance coming across there
Now I know for the most part I lurk, sure I post amusing pictures to try and lighten the mood but I do find this thread interesting, I like watching the different view points being bounced across.
However, telling someone that "this is how it is and that what they should be believing is blah" means nothing if that person has never experienced anything like that or has no way to relate to it. As has been said (sorry I forget who, I think LeoVirgo) there's no point giving an answer to someone if they don't know how to arrive at that point. That'd be like me saying the answer is 6 ... well, what does that relate to? How was that answer found? What are the workings out for it? People have to work things out for themselves.
Even if you had, say, 4 people that all experienced the same event, each of them would take from it a different perspective. Each of them would find different personal meanings from it depending on a lot of factors not least of which is their upbringing.
Just because a path or viewpoint is right for one person, that doesn't mean it is right for everyone else.
- Phoenix