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Hidden Hand Message - Law Of One - Discussion!

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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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Hi spannera!


Just to note...its still pretty much considered myth, about Krishna...more of a personification just like many others are can be assumed to of been real. Last I researched, Krishna's birth (if there was one) had to do more with the time of the beginning of fall, like August or September.

I personally, take these personifications to try to find out a similar thread that has ran in the minds of man for thousands of years. The desire for a 'leader/king', born of pureness, with powers, ect.

Be careful though, the Zeltergist movie has ran viral putting out all sorts of false information that was never found in real texts of these beings, even their myths....like the wild claims that there were many that were born of Dec. 25th.

Im sure all of the stories have something to tell us about the people that the story was of and the time of those people. In a way.....all of the stories, be them real or myth, is a phase of God or a phase of our own thoughts as a united consciousness.

We can take any character....and enter that mind complex, be it real or not, and find out something, either of Spirit or of Man. Its hard to say of these old stories who was real and who was not....if there was any of them that were real. Can one be sure that the desire for a 'man of god' is not something that man has routinely created over and over and over again? Can our thoughts and desires be strong enough, to keep creating such stories every 2000 years or so? Every culture it seems awaited 'god in the flesh' or created 'god in the flesh'.

Is this our desire....that 'god becomes flesh' or is it our desire that 'man becomes god'. I think there is a deep rabbit hole here that many beings cant face the own truth within themselves yet, of what they desire and what past men have desired.

Ah but Jesus supposedly said....there is only one that is good....and he did not claim that goodness for himself...even though we keep throwing it upon him.

Just some thoughts...no right or wrongs...and confussion is OK, embrace NOT KNOWING




posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
There are so many people who have lost their jobs, and such a huge need for awareness and new media outlets.

Businesses I think of that should be shared all over the place,ie. no one monopoly but spring up in every town and region are: newspapers, delivered door to door with advertising paying for them, for free. They don't have to be costly. They can be made on computer using scribus for example, or open office and be printed out as needed, into newletter type magazines. People need to start doing the grass roots things.


I think that is great to have a vision of how you want your world to be.

Its also necessary to be open to the entire "playing field" in the game you are in. We really can not discount any part of it - - if we want to understand our part in it.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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Thank you. I ask questions more for shared knowledge then actual answers.

As different perspectives provide different answers - - there is rarely only one correct answer.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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I think we need to be more pro-active about changing things. And though I don't want violence, and actively encourage tptb to join with humanity on our side, and start to mitigate what has happened, we still need to sit down and determine, how grown ups, and even higher ups, would stop a world wide effort at genocide, for example. I don't believe that we need to be wide open, ineffective targets for wolves to strike and manipulate.

We need to become grown ups and take charge of managing this planet better, including how people are treated and their living conditions, and options. We all should be living in a clean techno society with abundance and advanced options for everyone, and its only right to consider it way past time to wake up, grow up, and bring what is done in the dark, out in the open.
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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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Does anyone hve an opinion about the similairies between Simon Magus and Jesus



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by spannera
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Does anyone hve an opinion about the similairies between Simon Magus and Jesus


Sure my friend, I have an opinion on their similarities. They both died.

I have an opinion on their differences as well. One amazed the masses to be glorified in his teachings, and they were forgotten. The other amazed the masses that they would be glorified in his teachings, and they live on.

With Love,

Your Brother


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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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I think we need to be more pro-active about changing things. And though I don't want violence, and actively encourage tptb to join with humanity on our side, and start to mitigate what has happened, we still need to sit down and determine, how grown ups, and even higher ups, would stop a world wide effort at genocide, for example. I don't believe that we need to be wide open, ineffective targets for wolves to strike and manipulate.

We need to become grown ups and take charge of managing this planet better, including how people are treated and their living conditions, and options. We all should be living in a clean techno society with abundance and advanced options for everyone, and its only right to consider it way past time to wake up, grow up, and bring what is done in the dark, out in the open.


OK - I'm kind of a Progressive Globalist Socialist Atheist (in perfect balance without corruption - yeah - I know)

Where/How do we start?



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by spannera
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Does anyone hve an opinion about the similairies between Simon Magus and Jesus


Sure my friend, I have an opinion on their similarities. They both died.

I have an opinion on their differences as well. One amazed the masses to be glorified in his teachings, and they were forgotten. The other amazed the masses that they would be glorified in his teachings, and they live on.

With Love,

Your Brother



. . . and were opportune to use for political control.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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Perhaps they were created by the same group



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:08 PM
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Is this our desire....that 'god becomes flesh' or is it our desire that 'man becomes god'. I think there is a deep rabbit hole here that many beings cant face the own truth within themselves yet, of what they desire and what past men have desired.

Ah but Jesus supposedly said....there is only one that is good....and he did not claim that goodness for himself...even though we keep throwing it upon him.


I think this is the most important thing any person as said regarding humanity's collective single-most important goal, which is an "ascribed status," and will not change.

YES! When you remove the personal "ego" goal of achieving and getting closer and closer to perfection and becoming "as God," you have only the single-most wish and ultimate hope of humanity (ALL OF THY BRETHREN forevermore and forever past,) which can only serve the good in all things, of obtaining "enlightenment" and perfection, a total giving-over of self for the other, a most unselfish prayer for all, made with the total heartfelt hope and prayer for all, is a very unconditional state of being and YES, THIS IS FOR ALL OF US, every single one.

Paying-it-forward, kindess through giving, a smile, beauty, suffering for another instead of yourself, love thy neighbor as yourself; I think you have the message spot-on!

My sincere prayer and visualization is for all people to have this perspective. There will indeed be a change, no one will ever hunger, feel alone, be sad, or hurt another. Pure Harmony. Nothing is impossible.

If God brings you to it, He will get you through it.

Evil or negativity will not exist where there is total harmony; doesn't this sound like the multiple teachings? I have a picture, in my mind, of golden valleys bathed in light, where things flow freely and full glory is restored to them...and people shine! Their love literally shines from within!

Many Blessings!



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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I'm alot like that.
I think its through grass roots efforst and getting people to talk and educate themselves and grow up, they need to stop giving power away, and yet we need to work for a better world at the same time. I really loved the street view.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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I'm alot like that.
I think its through grass roots efforst and getting people to talk and educate themselves and grow up, they need to stop giving power away, and yet we need to work for a better world at the same time. I really loved the street view.


But what does that mean? Don't you think there are people like that now?

I think actually the majority of people are like that.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
. . . and were opportune to use for political control.


Absolutely!



With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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Too many are asleep and putting up with abuses, they need to speak up and take back this abuse of their food, water, soil, air and liberty. While beign responsible and cooperative at the same time.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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Too many are asleep and putting up with abuses, they need to speak up and take back this abuse of their food, water, soil, air and liberty. While beign responsible and cooperative at the same time.



What makes you think "the elite" are not doing what they believe is right?

I'm sure you've been involved in some kind of charity function. Take 20 people on the committee - - maybe 3 take charge - - and the rest all follow. Someone HAS to take charge. If no one took charge - - would anything happen? It is not going to organize itself.

You assume that the "elite" are all about themselves - - - but you do not know that. Are they about Power/Control/Recognition and self preservation? Probably - - - but no more then those 3 people on the charity committee.

In the animal kingdom it is survival of the fittest. Is that really wrong? In some species only the strongest male is allowed to breed. Is that really wrong? In some species they can manipulate time of birth if food is scarce. Is that really wrong?

Everything is about Intent. Perhaps the Intent of at least some of the "elite" is preservation of man.

Many people tend to equate money as evil. Its actually the Love of Money - - meaning greed. We do not know the intent of the "elite" is greed.

In some countries - - - that are male dominated - - - women out number men. Why do they allow themselves to be dominated?

PERCEPTION - - - is always an interesting platform.



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 07:20 PM
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Yes, but there is a difference in who takes charge. The elite may think they're doing OK. I don't. I really object to living on a slave planet with controlled educations, poverty, homelessness, starvation, with cia and black ops seeding drugs and trauma in communities and torturing people mind, body and soul throughout the world.
I suggest they go and do this somewhere in another galaxy under watchful eyes of big guys with teeth to ensure they can't hurt anyone but themselves.

I believe in grass roots options, in ever larger circles of councils, with people taking turns in jury duty, and always another group of jury duty watching over the first, and people able to veto in large numbers whatever they don't like.

Edit to add: when I say with teeth, I use it the way our family always discussed politics, something that has the abiliity to take action against those abusing power, a bigger force over their heads. Not dinos, or dracos.
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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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Yes, but there is a difference in who takes charge. The elite may think they're doing OK. I don't. I really object to living on a slave planet with controlled educations, poverty, homelessness, starvation, with cia and black ops seeding drugs and trauma in communities and torturing people mind, body and soul throughout the world.
I suggest they go and do this somewhere in another galaxy under watchful eyes of big guys with teeth to ensure they can't hurt anyone but themselves.

I believe in grass roots options, in ever larger circles of councils, with people taking turns in jury duty, and always another group of jury duty watching over the first, and people able to veto in large numbers whatever they don't like.


What makes you think those who you believe to be the "elite" - - are doing all this? Are they the government - - or are they separate from the government. Are they MJ12? Or is MJ12 running things and in opposition of the "elite"?

When have we not had grassroots movement? Why are they not more affective?



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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Its the bloodlines. But the ones holding the whole world hostage are the US/UK ones. I know some of the big families by intuition, sense their energy and have a strong awareness. Of course the elected leaders are playing roles out they should never have done, for its extortion, fraud, treason, murder and crimes against humanity. Anyone complicit with information should disclose all they know, walk over to the people and organize with them.

Saudi Arabia is invovled as well.
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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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Its the bloodlines. But the ones holding the whole world hostage are the US/UK ones. I know some of the big families by intuition, sense their energy and have a strong awareness. Of course the elected leaders are playing roles out they should never have done, for its extortion, fraud, treason, murder and crimes against humanity. Anyone complicit with information should disclose all they know, walk over to the people and organize with them.


How do you know there are bloodlines?



posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 09:10 PM
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I think many things we are 'shown' can be our own desires to see things.

Im sure there are bloodlines that have pride of their blood line. Im sure there are powers, that have greed due to their powers.

I dont think any 'beings' are trying to kill us with poisons in the food...I think there are some that are trying to cut corners for reasons of greed (money). I dont think any beings are trying to mislead us through religions or control us through a certain belief...but later used such things for their love of power.



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