Originally posted by redgy
reply to post by LeoVirgo
where do these thoughts and desires then originate from, are they really drummed into us at early age by parents, governments, those with a belief
allready, how young can one be before an understanding of the powers of god can take hold,
are they through some illusion of matrix or given by light at the end of each lifetime, is there then a purpose and test grade for such a soul
is it just a naturally occurring thing that through genes is passed down generation after generation, something that lies dormant until it is arisen
through some event beheld as no other meaning.
maybe just maybe, is it truth of soul, of being, and of god.
edit on 28-10-2010 by redgy because: spelling mistakes
If God/Holy Spirit/Thee....is truly all there is, without beginning and end....constantly expressing Theeself through the 'word' becoming an outward
manifestation....then where would any thought or idea originate from?
A child is likely to be closer to being a perfect expression then we as adults...for being what we think as a 'individual' eventually creates
desires within us, totally unique to each of us. But....if our soul...is only a phase of Gods expressions...then through our misusing and
misinterpretations of what Thee's Divine Will is to be....we will be led back to a 'clean' vessel for Thee to 'be' through us....for Thee to
express perfectly, through an outer manifestation. Still though, it is within the outer manifestation...for Thee is 'life' itself, the very essence.
Just as Thee 'wills' expression, for to 'be' is to express (can you imagine 'being' without expressing?) we as 'separate' phases manifest
Thee's will...to be used through our own desires, misusing the gift of 'will' for we dont see that every thought is from Thee...every idea is from
Thee. The original thought can become misled or misused, due to our personal wants, opinions, or attractions. We take thoughts and place a personal
construct upon them. By creating many troubles and woes in our misuse of choosing how to manifest a thought through its many possibilities...we learn
to weigh, sift, and measure....what satisfies us in Spirit (over what satisfies us as 'self'). As long as we give our thoughts a personal relation
to us...we wont see the Divine Purpose of why they were inspired from the Spirit/God/One and Only infinite.
Through all the mistakes, we are given personal obstacles that hold purpose...we are to overcome, to finally develop a body and mind strong enough for
Spirit to manifest as a perfect expression, in many phases, of its divine attributes.
Every manifestation and vibration is but an expression of some phase of Gods Being. Through Thees power and will that are given to us...to
'become'...we misuse these gifts constantly...only to be led back to Thee, the only true self that is, who's word/thought is becoming manifested
outwardly through nature...but also its within nature.
For Thee...is everything, and nothing would be, without Thee.
You may not see or comprehend that it is Thee that inspires you with an idea/thought....but if God/IAm/Holy Spirit is all that is...an idea or thought
must be of a phase of God/Spirit...in 'Being/Expression'.
Though, again, often (more often then not at this stage of the process/emanation) we use these thoughts/ideas to benefit us as 'selves' instead of
seeing the possibilities to Thee's Divine Will purpose of them, either be it to test us as vessels of Spirit/prepare us to be perfect expressions of
Thee's prime image/attributes.
God...being all that IS...is expressing Theeself, through phases of being, through Thee's attributes. You are one of these attributes, expressing
through conditions of nature/earth as a 'soul' to Thee.
Gradually through mineral, vegetable, and animals kingdoms...unfolded a higher and more complex state of consciousness that allowed the perfect ONE to
move and come into/emanate as expressions in infinite phases of Thee's nature. All ideas form from a attribute of God...be it power, love, ect. We,
being given those gifts, misuse them. Our human personality can be an instrument if used correctly to confine and focus the Divine Will BUT...before
we use it for this...we will test and try to use it for our own benefits and purpose as individuals. Just as Spirit emanates a 'Divine Will'....its
been emanate into us to have 'will' and the agent of this will is 'desire'.
Every thing, every creation/emanation, every condition and event that ever transpired...began as an idea/thought in the mind.
Through desire, thinking, and speaking forth, that idea/thought can come into visible manifestation. Within us lay all possibilities, for within us,
the Spirit of life which holds all possibilities, is there. Once we learn how to allow it, the Spirit can express itself in perfect form of its
divine attributes. Heaven...on Earth...is very quantum.
Have you ever noticed how desire will have a relation to a 'new thought' in your working mind? And 'through thinking' the 'idea' can be brought
to fruitation? Remember, we are made in 'thees image'. Looking into your own processing of thoughts and manifesting those thoughts into
'being/expressing' can show you how we came into 'being'.
Is there a purpose and test grade for a soul memory? I would say that 'perfect expression' of Thee through us as 'phases' of Thee is the purpose.
God, consistently, expressing....emanating into perfect expression...for Thee already holds the perfect image of Earth and us and all the life that
is. Who's memory...is a souls memory....if a soul..is truly just a phase of God?
People will say then...what about all the imperfect thoughts, the imperfect evil ideas. To trace back to the original thought, one would not find
'evil or bad intent'....but only that persons personality and desires has misused the gifts it has. The power of 'will' that has been given to us
is what created 'desires' within us as 'selves' that we think we are.
To think...is to create. Anything you have made...lets say you build a bird house. A part of you, is literally in that bird house. It took your
thinking, your working mind, your putting forth your ideas for them to manifest...your hands to do the work...for it to become. It would not have
become, without you.
The ways of God/Holy Spirit and the process and workings of Thee...is all around us if we look. Within nature..and the ways our own mind works. The
way things 'become' through ourselves, expressing/being.
Its the giving way to what we really are...which is ONE...which is not a 'self' at all...that is the trick. But know...its needed, and should not be
skipped, for in the process of us testing our individuality....we will find, that we are ONE and that being ONE is the only way great things can
happen, like our world to become more then what it is...for there to be compassion, and not separation...for there to be all for one and one for all.
Like children, we will try and test every seemingly power we have as the seemingly individuals we think we are....just to find that we are not
content, we are not our full potential..that there is still something that calls us and pulls us within.
The 'perfect expression' already 'is' for to Thee...there is no time, space, ect. But we, as we see things through 'phases' cant see the
I probably went way over board in some of this...for its so complex and tough to explain. But...this is my limited view of our 'thoughts'. They are
not really 'ours' but we use them as such. We take an avenue of possibility that benefits 'us' as a 'self' and not seeing the higher
possibilities of them all yet.
Its tricky to know....if what we accept, is something we created/manifested from the use of a original thought....or if it truly is, the original
thought in itself. We take things and build on them, in the working mind. To trace back to the original thought, can be in its own right, hard to
discern...for our opinions and personal perspectives may cloud our 'knowing'. We may think we 'know' something...just to later learn the
reason/desire/opinion of why we thought we 'knew' something was so.
This goes back to my faith that all things have purpose, there are no mistakes. How can there be, if God is all that is...for God, is perfect. When
building the bird house...it may not seem perfect when we have all the different pieces laying on the table unfinished, it may even to be as if its a
huge mess that cant be fixed. We are in a very limited perspective...of all that IS. Our use of language also limits us in understanding such complex
things. We may see ourselves as 'imperfect' right now...just like one can see the unfinished bird house is 'imperfect'...even though....all the
potential for the finished 'manifested/expression' is there and was always there to begin with. For in your mind, you had the prime image, of the
finished product...so in the 'thought' was already, the all potential that was needed.... but only through your will, will the potentials form and
I thought so many times about editing this and taking alot of this out and trying to keep it simple...but I want to explain where I am coming from.
Ill stop now...I know this is already way over board and likely makes no sense to anyone