Oliver Stone: Jewish control of the media is preventing free Holocaust debate, page 2
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reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:36 PM by Gorman91
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By definition it is an Anti-American website because of what America has become.

hurp durp.


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:37 PM by peck420
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Gorman - 6 million polish citizens died during wwII....that puts them on par with the jews atleast (approx 50% jew, 50% non jew).

And as the number of jews dying during the holocaust rises every year, I think a little honest discussion is a real good thing.

I say this as a non jew that lost over 50% of his family to the war. The fact that everybody except jews gets marginalized is a slap in the face to say the least.


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:38 PM by ModernAcademia
reply to post by SLAYER69



Never mind, I edited my post
I read something else

when you said "thats what many antisemitic groups would like you to think" I thought I read "that's what antisemitic groups like you think".

My apologies!
I dislike mondays like Garfield



reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:40 PM by Gorman91
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Well you know how when we look at the Earth, we find more and more fossils the longer we look? Thus raising the biodiversity of the planet?

Same principle. The longer you look, the more accurate you get.

reply to post by patmac



You proved my point. And?

Chimneys are there, and that's 6 million. I could care less if it.s 5.99 or that. Just like I could care less if gravity is 10, or 9,81. Whatever. I say 6 million. Close enough.


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:40 PM by ~Lucidity
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That pretty much proves his entire point about preventing free debate.

Putting it in context is my beef too. I think the Jewish spin on the entire war really has been detrimental to both open dialog, perspective, and history.


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:41 PM by SLAYER69
Originally posted by patmac
Originally posted by Gorman91
That would be the large smoking chimneys with the smell of human flesh coming out.... yea silly pants. They existed.


www.holocaust-history.org...



Nice link....

Now tell all the nice people reading this where exactly did all the bodies go after they were gassed?


Edit to add:
Jews, Poles and just about all the other millions killed by the NAZI's!

That's right up in smoke!

[edit on 26-7-2010 by SLAYER69]


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:43 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by ~Lucidity



War happened people died. Europeans hated Jews, so they killed them. This is a simple proven fact. Don't glamor Europeans who killed millions of Africans for over a hundred years and helped millions more get enslaved in the Americas. Europeans have a long history of genocide. The genocide of the Jews in WW2 happened. 5.9 million Jews died, if you want it to be exact. This was hardly the first time and probably won't be the last time.


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:43 PM by ~Lucidity
Okay, since we're having a Wikipedia fight here...go study the chart here.

That should help put things into some perspective. And I'm still waiting for a breakdown of Eastern Rite Orthodox, Catholics, and so on.

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reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:44 PM by patmac
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by patmac
Originally posted by Gorman91
That would be the large smoking chimneys with the smell of human flesh coming out.... yea silly pants. They existed.


www.holocaust-history.org...



Nice link....

Now tell all the nice people reading this where exactly did all the bodies go after they were gassed?


Slayer, I'm trying not to side on one way or another. Thats why I posted the links that I did. I'm still taking a firm stance that debate needs to be done about this issue.

Edit: Let the history buffs BE ABLE to discuss it in an open manner, without being labeled monsters. Now, If you guys want to duke it out on this thread - on your own, go right ahead. But I have work to do today and I cannot be bothered with this stuff.

[edit on 26-7-2010 by patmac]



reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:44 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by ~Lucidity



Thanks. Millions of people died. You're point? You're only proving that a miserably little 5.9 million Jews could easily fit into the total deaths.

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reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 02:46 PM by peck420
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And that is were you seem to have missed the point.

The only numbers that have significantly changed from my history books (1994) to today, is the number of JEWS that have died.

Is every new body found jewish?

Did the jews, which prior to world war 2, estimated their population in Europe at 4 million (same history book), head to Germany during the war?

Lot's of people died, and having one race/religion whatever, take over this event is in effect marginalizing all the others that died. And that is the slap in the face.

This is why it is very important to start having honest and open discussions about this event. All the secrecy and possible deceipt around it could very well cause the next "holocaust".

Edit to add...wiki whoops?

How did the Jewish population in Poland go from 1.3 mill 1897
source

to 3.00 mill 1945
source

That's a HUGE population disparity for 48 years?
And the 3.00 mill is the death toll from holocaust - not total jewish population.

Edit for my whoops
[edit on 26-7-2010 by peck420]

[edit on 26-7-2010 by peck420]


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 03:05 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by peck420



Same way the US went from 2 million illegals to 20 million. Sucky arse polls.

Welcome to technology. It's safer here.


reply posted on 26-7-2010 @ 03:05 PM by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by peck420





Did the jews, which prior to world war 2, estimated their population in Europe at 4 million (same history book), head to Germany during the war?

Ehhh, you read wrong history books.
Jews in Poland - 3.3 million.
in Germany - 522000
in France - 350000
in Hungary - 800000
in Romania - 600000
in Holland - 140000
in Czechoslovakia- 350000
in USSR - 4000000
and this is not all. Naturally some people are counted several times because of refugees and shifting of territories between countries (my guess several hundred thousand in Hungary/Romania/German Jews and maybe even up to million in USSR/Poland) but still your "4 million" total Jewish European population figure is pretty false, don't you think?
Hope you change your book.
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