Originally posted by JoshNorton
Um, no it's not. That's a hexagram that's the intersection of two triangles... 6 points, not 5. Basic geometry...
Originally posted by Unity_99
Also if you look at the pentagram, and note that its two intercepting triangles
A hexagram is a six-pointed geometric star figure, [6/2] or 2[3], the compound of two equilateral triangles.
How the heck is a hexagon there? We've shown a pentagonal figure in relation to Venus's orbit, but you can't go willy-nilly equating 5 and 6 just because it suits you to do so!!!
Originally posted by Unity_99
Venus represented duality too in that its our so called evil twin. And Saturn for a host of reasons I believe, but the hexagon and the eye are there, plus I believe they open portals to different channels with some of their occult practices.
Originally posted by Phage
Just about any 5 points set around a circle will form this kind of "pentagram".
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
Originally posted by Phage
Just about any 5 points set around a circle will form this kind of "pentagram".
This just needs to be re-iterated...
If you draw a circular path around the Sun, especially true with closer planets, you can make a pentagram, or a square, or a triangle, or a circle...
The OP pentagram design is a total hoax!! It means NOTHING except that someone tried to sell you this idea. ridiculous OP concerning Venus portion.
The sacred geometry of proportions, visible in patterns and designs of organic life, is the natural rhythm of planetary cycles. The dance of Venus with the Sun and Earth has a tempo not unlike the waltz - eight to thirteen, which is known as the golden or divine proportion; that is eight years and thirteen stations or conjunctions.
Rose Pattern
A picture is worth a thousand words. Over a period of eight years, Venus traes the rose pattern in her dance with the Sun. Figure 4 is an illustration of the astronomical plate from James Ferguson's Astronomy Explained upon Sir Isaac Newton's Principles, 1799 edition, Plate III. The little circle in the center represents the Earth; the pattersn represent the motion of Venus. (the below image is basically the same thing, the image from the book is in black and white.)
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The Symmetry of Venus's cycles within cycles is breathtakingly beautiful. The five consecutive synodic cycles of Venus completes the rose shape. The word synod means "to come together." The loops are formed by her retrograde periods, which takes place at approximately 584-day intervals. The tip of the petals represents the Full Venus, and 584 days later she is painting another tip.
So every 584 earth days, Venus becomes as close to earth and than starts to move away. As you can see in the above image, these points make a petal in the rose shape, or if you like one of the 5 points in the pentagram/pentacle/pentagon.
Divine Proportion
The golden mean or rectangle is encountered when taking the ratios of geometric figures, such as the pentagon (five angles), decagon (10 angles) and dodecagon (12 angles). Plato and Pythagoras, in their mystery schools, considered the divine proportion, or golden mean (1.618) sacred. There are five cycles of Venus every eight years. Eight divided by five equals 1.625. The numerical value of the golden ratio is unending and usually rounded off to three decimal places. Italian mathematician Fibonacci, who lived around 1175-1250 CE, gave us the Latin numbers, the Fibonacci series, and the decimal system as opposed to the Roman numbers in use until the Thirteenth century. The Fibonacci series of numbers is 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 . . . The addition of any two consecutive numbers results in the next number in the sequence. The ratio of two consecutive numbers in the series is the golden mean. As the numbers in the Fibonacci series increase, the decimal representation grows higher.
Ok that is a little background in the Golden Mean, Golden Ratio and Fibonacci series. Now let's put it all together with Venus. The author continues to talk about how people in our past have used the golden ratio to built works of art, sacred buildings and many aspects of life.
The Golden Mean of the Motion of Venus
That geometric ratio present in a beautiful body and face is also present in the motion of Venus. Venus orbits the Sun in 224.695 days, and the Earth orbits the Sun in 365.242 days, creating a ratio of 8/13. The ratio of the orbit of Venus in her dance with the SUn and the Earth equals the golden mean of 1.625 - 13 divided by 8. Five conjunctions of Earth and Venus take place every eight orbits of the Earth around the Sun and every thirteen orbits of Venus.
Quick Cycle Review
There are two main cycles. The first is the waxing and waning 584-day synodic cycle, which equates to about 18 months and is split into two 9 month periods. There are five phase cycles, which create the five eight-year cycles. Five phase cycles equate to 2,920 days, which equal eight solar rotations (8 x 365 = 2,920 days). Thus, each one of the five synodic periods within the complete cycle repeats at 2,920-day intervals, which is eight Earth years. The numbers five, eight, and thirteen are intrinsically connected to the Venus cycles and repated in the pentagram shape used to illustrate her cycle.
Now if you do not find this fascinating, i urge you to step away from the bible and marvel at what the universe has to offer, no offense.
What i find interesting is that the Conjunctions are split between 18 months, half of it being the morning star and the other half being the evening star. Is it a coincidence that the it takes 9 months for women to give birth? Also, you can find a connection between the moon and women's periods.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
You can play all the word games you want with astronomy charts or whatever, but fact remains, billions of people consider lucifer=satan as synonymous terms.
Just because 10 or 15 people on the internet think it's Venus, isn't going to make a dent in the grand scheme of things.
Sorry to inform you of this likely scenario.
IT is actually a revelation to note in how many instances the pentagram symbol is used. The symbol for the Venus cycle is an ancient symbol of protection. Here is a short list of the symbolism of the pentagram:
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Gnostics - The Blazing Star, also known as Venus the Morning Star
Freemasons - the 72 degree compass is the emblem of virtue and duty. Also the women's division of the masons is known as Eastern Star - the daughters of Venus.
Ancient and Medieval Philosophy - the spirit was the purest element above earth, air, fire and water, the foundation of life
Hebrews - the symbol of Truth
Pythagoras - the emblem of perfection
Druids - the symbol of Godhead
Egypt - knowledge and the underground Womb
Pagan Celts - the goddess of Morrigan
Early Christians - Five wounds of Christ
Sir Gawain's glyph - symbolizing the five knightly virtues of generosity, courtesy, chastity, chivalry, and piety
In advertisements - shows that a service or product is subject to a seniors discount
Mormon temples - inverted form used
According to Knight and Lomas, the pentagram sitting on two legs is the symbol for summer and the inverted one for winter.
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Originally posted by PhyberDragon
Venus doesn't make a pentagram orbit and neither does earth. They travel a circuit, or, a circle. There are five points along that circuit where the two are closest. The fact does not change that even though you can connect those dots to make a pentagram does not mean that they travel a pentagram. They travel a circle. They don't hop all over the place to make a pentagram form they go from one point to the next to make a circle. You could also draw a pentogram, but, they don't travel in that pattern either. The orbit makes a circle not a line or a series of lines.
The words in bold are definitely attributed to a male being..a 'man'.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by BeastMaster2012
I've got a cold and in a bad mood taking care of my sick baby so forgive me... but
This is THE MOST IGNORANT thread I have ever seen on ATS
EVERY inner planet makes a pentagram at certain times.... wtf - new low.
(As far as Satan vs Lucifer stuff, maybe so, but your Venus connection wasn't worth answering the rest of it.)
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by BeastMaster2012
Alright, well I'm glad you've found meaning in the mathematics and patterns. The Fibonacci sequence is an amazing thing.