reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod @SmokeJaguar67 6 the others I understand your point, but unfortunately you are wrong about
everything. You are seeking for someone to charge and like most of the people here, you choose to blame God for all your pain.
It is interesting that you tell me that I am wrong and then you deign to assume that firstly that I am in pain and secondly I am blaming a god for
Firstly thank you for the response but I must point out to you that I am not wishing to charge anyone other than charge say, the war mongers like
“Blair and co” for crimes against humanity and for lying about the whole weapons of mass destruction that can be released onto the west at 45
minutes notice but as that is a separate topic I will not expand.
I bring that up so that you know that I do not blame a god for anything that has gone wrong with this world, I blame the crimes of the people
throughout the ages who have strived to war and convert in the name of a god and instead have left behind deep wounds that will probably never heal
until the day comes that the world is totlay devoid of all religions that demand obedience and that demand a person “surrenders” them self to a
Secondly I am not in any pain other than some physical pain as I spent a weekend on the firth of forth in a sea kayak but I know you mean in the
spiritual so I will expand on that.
The pain I feel is the pain anyone who wants to respect their fellow human feels when they see that the media is programming my society to love the
hero. To my mind these people are soldiers not heroes, they are the man and woman that chooses to go to foreign lands and to follows the orders of war
mongers that wage war for secret aims and then have the audacity to talk about loss as if they have any notion of the real cost of this war. I mean
this as no disrespect to serving soldiers or those who have served as I was a soldier too but it was always lies and spin and I played my part.
It is when I see the real pain, a circling desperation in the faces of real heroes, people who are struggling to be good parents and productive
members of a darkening society as one by one they lose out they get stamped on and regarded by the more successful as somehow being lacking and less
than worthy of respect.
For instance is a mother a bad mother because she is poor abandoned by her partner and her child is disabled? No she is not a bad mother but all too
often almost out of hand she is deemed unfit because in her suffering she is somehow a cause for the suffering and perhaps even the disablement of her
child? It sickens me that others feel that they can somehow judge this person as less than them because this mother (example) has less and can offer
less to their disabled child because unlike the overly judgemental she did not start the game in a position of advantage, socially, financially or
I work in the voluntary sector with the disadvantaged and so I see these sorts of stories in very real terms quite often. The last thing I offer is
anything to do with religion as to dive into religion to my opinion will mask the symptoms but will not cure the cause at source and before long
religion either closes off the mind or it alters perceptions into the negative – in my opinion of course.
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod Start with yourself, Look within you, your own injustice is responsible FOR ALL YOUR MISERY.
No my friend the cause of my past misery was that I believed my leaders and I went off at their behest to serve in foreign lands a long time ago and I
saw the depths of the human soul. I know just how far the rabbit hole falls and the lengths the religious will sink to make a point and if it involves
blood and death then to the religious this is just welcome sacrifices to oil the wheels of their particular agenda. My contempt for them all is equal
and it does not matter which god they serve as each god has blood on their hands so it is best if they do not exist and I am certain they do not exist
so it is all good in that regard.
I am not a cause of my misery because I have over the years taken many steps to repair the great damage that was done to my body and my mind but the
worst damage was what was done to me as a practicing catholic. Since I threw my faith to the winds I have become much more aware of the human capacity
for thought and I have become much more open to the real things that matter that involve respect and love for animals and the people who in striving
to do the best they can with the tools they were given, continue to be stereotyped as being lesser people, a drain on a society that is itself a drain
Such unabashed hypocrisy is not lost on me but I know I am not in misery and I know you have made far too many assumptions about me that I must tell
you are way off the mark. In promoting your god you should at least try to understand the mindset of those you wish to preach the message as to get it
wrong over and over again is not indicative of a person worthy of listening to. Do not mistake my atheism for pain and misery or my contempt for you
as a personal thing, I hold contempt for all people who try to threaten others into a religious belief system with words to the effect of “believe
in my god or suffer for eternity in hell”.
If a god exists and tries that nonsense on me let that god know that to underestimate a human is not a wise act because when fear is gone what is left
is clarity of purpose and a will to live a life through choice not though ignorance.
Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod Even this evil society is not reponsible for our suffering, WE ARE THE ONLY RESPONSIBLES OF OUR
PAIN. As long you won't recognize ALL your Faults and Injustice, you'll never find the Truth: that GOD IS ONE, ALMIGHTY, MERCYFUL, COMPASSIONNATE
... GOD IS PERFECT and that's not mere assertions, that's simply the truth.
I do not believe in the concept of evil I believe that what others call evil is more a regressive thing based upon lack of knowledge or a fault in
psychology or psychiatry. Evil as in born bad to do bad is not a thing I belive exists but that is just a personal statement of what I consider to be
I recognise all my faults and I recognise the pains I have caused others in the years before I grew a brain and realised that all actions bring
consequences and if I could rectify some of the more negative actions of my past then I would do so but as I cannot travel into the past all I can to
make emends is to strive to live my life out as a better person and to keep myself from inflicting others with negative energies.
As to your god being “ALMIGHTY, MERCYFUL, COMPASSIONNATE ... GOD IS PERFECT” I must point out to you that a god that is all of those things would
not threaten to burn an unbeliever for choosing to remain godless and that god in using threats of violence to achieve his aims can in no way
whatsoever be considered a perfect being can he? Perfection is a difficult thing to achieve but a first step would be to accept the choice of another
and if that other chooses not to follow that god then acceptance and respect for that choice is closer to perfection than burning that individual on
the spot is it not?