reply to post by Maddogkull
If it is the Jehovah's Witnesses of which you speak, why do you say that you can't prove them wrong, when for them it is not to prove them wrong it
is too understand, what they are actually saying.
Are you unaware, that in their language of "Witness Speak" they actually tell the truth to the accusing public.
When "Witness Speak" is used it sounds to us like, they are led by the Christian's, The Holy Spirit, or angels.
Here is an example, I was talking to a Jehovah's Witness, of long standing and many conversations in which I explored their theology. I was amazed
at how, rancorous this person became, everytime I asked for more clarification. Her superior, was the same. I have been essentially yelled at by them.
I have also written to their society, and have received back, false information, by their own hand. But at the same time this is not false according
to their central theme, they are all doing as the prophet Ezekiel is doing. When they do what Ezekiel is doing, getting on the wall and telling the
people what is to come, they are prophets like that. When they also tell people where they are following god's (case is correct.) way of doing things
to the people, they are prophets like that. Further, it said, if you don't believe us just check the record. (And they are totally correct, wait,
you'll see once you translate their Witness Speak.)
Do you see the wording and the real, to us non-Witness's, meaning. Do you understand, that to act like someone you are not, does not give you their
abilities, it is merely acting.
Prior to their "When we do as Ezekiel did.,," statement , they in their own article said, we are not inspired and we are not infallible.
Inspired has the Bible meaning of God causes a thing to happen, that The Holy Spirit says is true. (The Christian's definition as I understand
Infallible, is the Roman Catholic meaning for the few cases, in which The Holy Spirit, leads or keeps an issue in the Roman Catholic Church from
error. That is an issue, as compared to the totality of all that is said and done by all those not in authority in the Roman Catholic Church, only
certain issues are without error, (mostly those of Faith and morals I think), by the Power of The Holy Spirit. (The Roman Catholic Christian's
definition as I understand it.)
Thus they are actually saying, The Holy Spirit, (God- for all salient understanding here), does not cause what they say or do to be true in their
In the conversation, this person asked me who wrote the article. I said it has no author. They said, it is the organization then, they do not put
their author's name on their own articles.
I was then summrily chastised for not listening to this person personally and for going to someone else for the information. Then this amazing
statement poured forth: "Yes , (we are prophets like that and our record proves it), why do you think we have had to change our scripture so many
times over the years."
At this point, I and you should be beyond stunned, for they told momentarily, that this is true. This person confirmed, all that was written here,
and, showed total understanding of their preaching. Do you see that?
In their literature, you need to read real close, and find out how they define all their words. It took me 20 years to get this far. I only wanted to
How is that. There is more like the core person of the typical member, but, it can be proved that they tell the truth to the public, in code, at
least in this case. Others, who I have talked to, say internally it is less honest than I have found as an outsider, but, that is unproven as of yet.
It was merely stated with experiences by the former, member.
This piece, on how they are prophets, you can verify yourself as being either as stated here, or not.