9/11 The Military knows Israel did it!!! Truth is coming....

reply to post by spikey


I was a teacher for at risk kids at one time. I know plenty about kids and lies. Spare whatever it is you think you're accomplishing with this tact.

People lie. Kids lie.

That's evidence? The fact that people lie, or lay cover for their lies?


How on earth does it make sense that they fingered some of the guys who were involved -IN ADVANCE - and yet wanted those same guys to succeed?

And if your hypothesis as to their motive were true, how do you explain the several other nations' warnings?

This is just ridiculous. People who want to see Jesus in toast, will see Jesus in toast.

Apologies if it has been said already, but this is such a serious issue, it needs saying again;

Newbies and the people amongst you that don't have much experience on these boards BEWARE of who you put your faith in, and who you agree with on here.

A topic with as far reaching implications such as this WILL HAVE agents masquerading as ordinary posters.

It is a CERTAINTY.

There are those that are simply posters with a contrary point of view, of course, but try to read BETWEEN the lines of posts that try to change the subject, divert other posters with personal attacks on their grammar, education levels, and reasoning skills.

They WILL try to convince you a post or thread is boring, not worth considering and so on.

My ADVICE to you, is CONSIDER EVERY POST you see in this thread.

And question exactly WHY someone is taking the stance they appear to be taking.

Keep it in mind, and don't let others make your up for you.

Originally posted by OpTiMuS_PrImE
Pay no attention to propaganda people, this isn't about Israels people
Trust me these people are every where including here dis-informing

That is true.
But the head of the snake is in Israel.

Kill the head, and the body dies.

That story is bunk. In fact, it was debunked by the very same cops who originally misreported it on the very same day. See if you can find the source for yourself - if you can't, you should ponder why you think it, and why the very same source 'contradicted' itself the very same day.

It was just an error. No biggie. they fixed it.

now fix yours.

Can you post a link to back this up?

reply to post by TrueTruth


True truth? Don't make me laugh. You are trying your damnedest to derail this thread's direction with obfuscation, and i'm much too long in the tooth to fall for it, go away.

Ignore list.

Originally posted by spikey

Originally posted by ExPostFacto
Can you point me to where he says this? I don't have time to listen to 40 minutes at this moment.

Why can't you spare 40 minutes? We've all waited nearly a decade for the truth, what's 40 minutes more?

Very, very silly.

I - and many of the others you guys like to slander as 'debunkers' or 'plants' - have, many of us, invested literally thousands of hours investigating this subject, and have no desire to listen to one more horrible piece of something sold under the label 'proof', which isn't. Either you can summarize the important bits, or there aren't any.

Write an abstract - 5 or 6 sentences. If you can't, then likely, it's not about facts, but interpretations and opinions.

Or don't. If you want nobody to watch it, then great. Do nothing.

Sweet.

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reply to post by crmanager


So I guess you would also call CENTCOM Commander General David Petreaus (PHD!) a so called "anti-Semite" right?

You do not have the understanding of what it takes to get a phd so you easily denigrate it.

The facts are that Dr. Sabrobsky has Jewish blood himself!

oh but He must be a self-hating Jew, like Avery, Landau, Finklestein, Stiglitz, Sachs, Walt and Mersheimer, all Jews who criticise Israeli pornification of life and democracy.

SO they must all be anti-Semite self- hating Jews because they are PHDs right?

Man your contempt, envy and motivated idiocy is so deep and your argument so shallow.

You don't even try to make a logical counter-argument or refute via well organised rebuttle, but simply attack like a rabid dog ad hominum.

Where does that ever work and have credibility?

At an AIPAC conference perhaps. But even there, they don't really believe their tripe while clapping.

you my friend are a true believer of the lowest order and are clearly transparent.

You have contributed nothing to the thread nor to the overall discussion and in fact have probably damaged whatever defense you were trying to mount. very weak.

typical of defenders of Israeli genocidal policies to simply marginalise any criticism of IsraHELL as anit-semitic.

People are not affected by that charge any longer and its a shame because such mindless propaganda devalues real genocides happening today as in Gaza and

denigrates the suffering and memories of those who died under similar policies of past regimes which carried out the same type of acts that Israel is today, as in Operation Cast Lead.

S0 you my friend stand naked like the Shepard who cried wolf too many times.

That cover don't work bud.

You can whine and cry anti-Semitism all day until you're blue and white in the face,

but no one is listening because you are lying,

not too mention that the majority of Israelis in power

are not Semitic in origin anyway but are in fact from Ashkenazi and Khazar origin.

And by the way, who is racist?

you are the one with quotes from that racist imperialist blue blood Kipling on your posts!

HA! the hypocrisy just bleeds!

Israel does not represent Judaism.

Israel represents a perverted, obscene and hijacked neo-nationalist (read: NAZI and FASCIST both) state under the guise of Judaism.

Deal with it.

Spikey...did you really put me on ignore just for saying I don't buy the story, and offering a site to go look at?

That's got to be a world record for fastest ever decompensation episode witnessed by other human beings - you literally collapsed like a house of cards in front of a fan.

Wow.

Talk about your intolerant 'believers'.

That was shocking.

Yet, kind of awesome.

Sorry Spikey - people debate here. It's what they do. If you don't care to try to flush out your point, then why bother? Do you want to change minds, or pitch fits?

Well, I guess we all know now the answer to THAT question.

reply to post by Pipebomb24875


Well, I wanted to punk the OP by forcing them to admit they don't actually know where a mistake was made and fixed by the same source re. the 'bombs in vans' bit...

but since you asked nicely - a rarity here- then sure.

the specific bit re. the 'bombs in vans' bit is near the bottom.

www.911myths.com...

Retracted within 8 minutes. But like so many other pieces of 'evidence' proffered by the fundamentalists here, only the agreeable snippets are chosen, and a tiny minority bother to seek out contrary evidence, or the origins of reports.

ISRAEL DID 911 ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD(The Original MSMD CASE)

mirrored here
www.deathflag.org...

theinfounderground.com...

republicbroadcasting.org...

[edit on 19-3-2010 by deathflag]

Originally posted by Silver Shadow

Originally posted by OpTiMuS_PrImE
Pay no attention to propaganda people, this isn't about Israels people
Trust me these people are every where including here dis-informing

That is true.
But the head of the snake is in Israel.

Kill the head, and the body dies.

If you really believe that then you might as well take a hammer and smash the tv, or better yet stop watching cnn and keep the set for sports and porno.

It doesn't really matter if Mossad or Bush did it -- it would REQUIRE complicity by the administration to have NORAD confused and standing down.

The FIRST goal should be getting a real criminal investigation started, and that's by repeating the UNANSWERED FACTS. If you speculate about any "sacred cow" being involved, you not only have to get over sounding like a wacko conspiracy theorist, but you also need to prove you aren't prejudiced.

The Bush administration did a great job of hiding behind the troops, the American flag, and Gawd -- and once again, here we are getting our eye off the ball: stop adding cover for them to hide behind. Next week it might be "Mexico did it!" and then you'd be trying to say; "but some of my best friends are Mexican."

The Banksters, the War Profiteers, and the NeoCon's have no loyalties -- they have profit and power. George Bush was as much an American as any rodent -- which probably hitched a ride on a boat a long time ago, and will do so again whenever it needs to eat.

Thank you for this superior find!
I'm going to continue watching these vids to see what else was said.

In the back of my mind or rather, in my mind's eye, I've always suspected Israel had their hand in this cookie jar. I always asked myself "Why is the US and Israel so deeply in cahoots?"

I'm not "anti-Semitic." Keep the focus where it should be concentrated. Forward with this endeavor!

star and flag!

Originally posted by TrueTruth
That story is bunk.

There are three stories referred to in the quote. Which one is bunk?

In fact, it was debunked by the very same cops who originally misreported it on the very same day. See if you can find the source for yourself - if you can't, you should ponder why you think it, and why the very same source 'contradicted' itself the very same day.

Do you think you could give us a source for your statement here? I never heard about the cops retracting their stories the very same day. I don't believe it.

Please cite sources. You're not convincing me.

reply to post by raresf


nothing to see here folks, move right along,

just the innocent and virtuous state of Israel the land of milk and honey!

no murdering state official war criminals here,

we are all angels, especially in likud-kadima.

we are all humanitarians of the highest order.

Nothing to see here, move it right along, you anti-Semite racists !

how dare you manipulate the masses against the Gods of Zion! The Wrath of the Star of David will smite you!

No matter how many times I say its the government and the thug mafia in power and NOT Judaism and NOT all Jews, you still continue with weak ad hominem attacks, thus exposing yourself as a fatuous and mindless propaganda agent.

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"The 4th Reich Lives in ISRAEL and in Corporate AmeriKKKA,

Israel is just the middle-east subsidiary" - someone said that


"Israeli Professor of Military History Martin Van Crevel said Israel

had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets

and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome.

Most European capitals are targets of our air force."

Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem,

pointed out that

"collective deportation" (READ: GENOCIDE AS THE NAZIS DID TO JEWS)

was Israel's only meaningful strategy towards the Palestinian people.

"The Palestinians should all be deported.

The people who strive for this (the Israeli government) are waiting only for the right man and the right time.

Creveld said he was sure that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to deport the Palestinians.

"I think it's quite possible that he wants to do that.

He wants to escalate the conflict. He knows that nothing else we do will succeed."

Asked if he was worried about Israel becoming a rogue state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians,

Creveld quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."

Creveld argued that Israel wouldn't care much about becoming a rogue state.

"Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world,

but rather the second or third.

We have the capability to take the world down with us.

And I can assure you that that this will happen before Israel goes under."


Yes elements in the US military, as in Petreaus who has spoken out and testified against Israeli policies before congress, are waking up.

you can call them anit-Semitic too if it makes you feel better,

but no one is buying your doggie doo doo you're selling.

What amazes me is all the BRAND NEW posters here today who "always knew" that Israel was involved.

That SHOULD be amended to say "Mossad" or "Likud party" -- but anyway, it's kind of amazing to have 9/11 advocates with such strong opinions and lot's of handy details who show up to point the finger.

Just the tactic to disrupt the conversation. Bush and Rove were infamous for getting someone to point the finger at them (a friend) and then discredit the story.

The WHO needs to follow real investigation of the WHAT HAPPENED -- when we get that, we can spend time speculating. Until then, it only makes it a lot harder because you create defensiveness -- especially when you blame a whole country.

And the MOST likely group to blame Israel, is in fact either some Middle East blogging group but MORE LIKELY, bloggers working for the Mossad -- as they've made attacking themselves a fine art. Of course, just mentioning these things can alienate people to the Truth movement -- which is the whole point.

Next week, we will blame the Vatican -- right? And "Catholic#124" will submit all kinds of data and will be registered a few days before.

reply to post by deathflag


I got about or 3 pages down, before i stopped reading the first link. It's not proof of anything AT ALL.

It's not even evidence.

I saw stories about OTHER events, and comments by people with connections, who somehow you guys take at their word (while oddly, other 'officialas' are presumed, if they disagree, to be part of the conspiracy)....

But not proof.

If I had a dollar for every time somebody claimed to have 'proof' of their pet theory, I'd never have to work again.

And yet..... always, always falls short of the definition.

reply to post by wokeuplate


I find it sad that you must highlight an entire post, sentence by sentence, just to make it sound believable. Either you speak truth and the truth will speak for itself, or you speak garbage that few people will believe.

Find another hobby and let your ignorant and highly racist remarks be a thing of the past. Your conclusionary remarks of calling israel a nazi state are especially problematic!

Originally posted by ipsedixit

Originally posted by TrueTruth
That story is bunk.

There are three stories referred to in the quote. Which one is bunk?

In fact, it was debunked by the very same cops who originally misreported it on the very same day. See if you can find the source for yourself - if you can't, you should ponder why you think it, and why the very same source 'contradicted' itself the very same day.

Do you think you could give us a source for your statement here? I never heard about the cops retracting their stories the very same day. I don't believe it.

Please cite sources. You're not convincing me.

www.911myths.com...


chow down, friend.

reply to post by TrueTruth

Sorry, I didn't see your posted link above when I posted last. A number of people were obviously typing at the same time. I'll look at your link though.