It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by watcher73
So let's hear it genius..............the complex reasons for the situation in Haiti?
[edit on 15-1-2010 by Zosynspiracy]
Originally posted by happygolucky
Originally posted by troubleshooter
So are you out at the airport with your passport in hand trying to get into Haiti?
Then it looks like you are the same kind of hypocrite then.
Ignorant you are...
I'm not the one trying to buy my way into an imaginary afterlife by worshipping a fallacy...
I'd be the first one on a plane back to the states...but - BUT, if I was a christian, and not today's watered down version, I'd be putting it on the line for those people...
Why..? Because that is what my christian god would DEMAND, and there is no way in hell that I'm giving up the opportunity to reign with Da'Man for 1,000 years and whatever other lie has been promised, because the Canadian State Dept. deems it so...
Do they serve their god or a gov't order..?
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by watcher73
Yeah typical.........blame lack of birth control.
As if human beings have no self control right? I mean it takes a college educated western to realize that if you stick your penis in a woman she'll get pregnat
and if you can barely support your wife and yourself chances are you won't be able to support your family. Like I said poverty is no excuse for basic common sense.
Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by Zosynspiracy
Its considered a Caribbean Island.
Cuba was always considered the "Republic of Cuba. Its still a damn island
Originally posted by troubleshooter
Who is the ignorant one...
...I was talking about 'true christians'...
...and they know heaven is a gift and can not be earned.
Actually a person who is doing stuff to earn a spot is not a Christian.
Boy, you really know lots of stuff about Christians eh?...not!
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
That's interesting - but he does not tell all christians to do that - a simple google search will lead you to understand that he was speaking to a "leader" of a city, who was asking what he could do to help people more. (Mark 10:17-31)
What a cop out there buddy. What were the hundreds, or at the 12 others following Jesus doing?
If we read the bible your way then we can assume that Jesus was only talking to Peter, Matthew...etc etc and that none of it is aimed at the readers.
Is that what youre saying? Too much context is worse than none at all.
I dare say by selling his wealth of possessions, he would be no doubt helping many under his dominion.
Really cuz I thought the whole point was to not live for material possessions. So how does selling his stuff help the poor people who cant afford it anyway?
You people miss the whole point. Your minds are clouded with context.
An interesting point to make is this: People who consider themselves "rich" segregate themselves from those who are not as wealthy as they, which is evident in society in general.
The moral of the story above, if you were trying to get one - was that material possessions can hinder your relationship with people, by you becoming alienated by them. Protecting possessions and keeping those who have less than you at bay, you are not serving the lords best interests (the interests of the general populace) and therefor only your own.
I see you add your own context to what you read.
Id like to hear these "thousands" more. Start a thread so we can all see the thousands of observations you made as well as providing source reference material. It would be very interesting to see your opinion and debate them as a matter of opinion.
I have already given another one, as have some others....judge not.
I wonder if xtians have ever thought that by trying to spread their word they are in effect judging those not like them?
I dont have a list of thousands but they are there waiting for someone to provoke their memory.
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by Zosynspiracy
Its considered a Caribbean Island.
Cuba was always considered the "Republic of Cuba. Its still a damn island
The island of Hispanolia is two countries. Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Just an FYI to you since Zosyn seems so caught up on the trivial while he is raging.
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
lol - look out for this guy! he's definitely pushing his own views of how everyone else should interpret the Bible... uh oh.. egomaniac much?
Bible is written allegorically.. meaning that they require thought to understand the meaning. It's also a multifaceted book and every story has several meanings.
Though it's good to see you get caught up in one meaning to this particular story where there are several..
So, am i supposed to take your context of overt negativity in regards to EVERYTHING, or make my own suppositions and opinions - after all the Bible is open for interpretation, but your not pushing your views as your ideas, your trying to push them as Fact - There's just one of many errors you have demonstrated by your 1 dimensional approach to the bible..
Good luck with this thread man, you're not going to prove anything by showing that you have a limited understanding at best of metaphoric meaning and analogical writings.
Like i said. make your own thread where you can prove everyones faith is wrong by showing that everyone is a hypocrite with the "thousands" of false and misleading, contradicting statements you came across in your decades of being a Bible scholar.
hang on.. you DID said you have "thousands" of statements where you could show hypocracy... Backflip much?
No need for any further discussion with you - Good luck, honestly. You will need it.
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by Zosynspiracy
Its considered a Caribbean Island.
Cuba was always considered the "Republic of Cuba. Its still a damn island
The island of Hispanolia is two countries. Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Just an FYI to you since Zosyn seems so caught up on the trivial while he is raging.
Only one raging here, is you mate. Everyone else is discussing.
Look at your previous writings... your raging at christians... raging at the fallacy.. raging at the hypocrisy - raging at religion - raging at the fact that your super intellect can see what no other christian can see.
rage rage rage rage rage...
Nice try though.
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by Zosynspiracy
Its considered a Caribbean Island.
Cuba was always considered the "Republic of Cuba. Its still a damn island
The island of Hispanolia is two countries. Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Just an FYI to you since Zosyn seems so caught up on the trivial while he is raging.
Only one raging here, is you mate. Everyone else is discussing.
Look at your previous writings... your raging at christians... raging at the fallacy.. raging at the hypocrisy - raging at religion - raging at the fact that your super intellect can see what no other christian can see.
rage rage rage rage rage...
Nice try though.
Youre the one capitalizing words and using 'flame' smileys to make your point because your words dont.
Nice try though.
Originally posted by dgtempe
reply to post by watcher73
You said it yourself. Its still an island.
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
Where are my flame smileys? care to provide a quote... i haven't used any emoticons as yet in my posts to you...
captialising... what the fvck are you on about.. honestly.
Why again did the "inferior" christian teachers put you "up" a level in their school? I'm having trouble BELIEVING that little gem right there.
"nice try though"
lol at you mate.
El oh el
*awaits overly sarcastic and nonsensical venom argument that will be ignored*
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
lol - look out for this guy! he's definitely pushing his own views of how everyone else should interpret the Bible... uh oh.. egomaniac much?
Bible is written allegorically.. meaning that they require thought to understand the meaning. It's also a multifaceted book and every story has several meanings.
Though it's good to see you get caught up in one meaning to this particular story where there are several..
So, am i supposed to take your context of overt negativity in regards to EVERYTHING, or make my own suppositions and opinions - after all the Bible is open for interpretation, but your not pushing your views as your ideas, your trying to push them as Fact - There's just one of many errors you have demonstrated by your 1 dimensional approach to the bible..
Good luck with this thread man, you're not going to prove anything by showing that you have a limited understanding at best of metaphoric meaning and analogical writings.
Like i said. make your own thread where you can prove everyones faith is wrong by showing that everyone is a hypocrite with the "thousands" of false and misleading, contradicting statements you came across in your decades of being a Bible scholar.
hang on.. you DID said you have "thousands" of statements where you could show hypocracy... Backflip much?
No need for any further discussion with you - Good luck, honestly. You will need it.
Another xtian spouts off bull and runs, just like in Haiti.
Originally posted by watcher73
Originally posted by FeralMonkeyMagic
Where are my flame smileys? care to provide a quote... i haven't used any emoticons as yet in my posts to you...
I have already quoted it. Its provided for you in one of the previous pages. Go find it. Think/Read before you lie. It was your first post in this thread I believe.
captialising... what the fvck are you on about.. honestly.
I have attached my first post in this thread for your perusal: think and read before you jump to conclusions. Maybe you are becoming confused because you are arguing with so many.
That's interesting - but he does not tell all christians to do that - a simple google search will lead you to understand that he was speaking to a "leader" of a city, who was asking what he could do to help people more. (Mark 10:17-31)
I dare say by selling his wealth of possessions, he would be no doubt helping many under his dominion.
An interesting point to make is this: People who consider themselves "rich" segregate themselves from those who are not as wealthy as they, which is evident in society in general.
The moral of the story above, if you were trying to get one - was that material possessions can hinder your relationship with people, by you becoming alienated by them. Protecting possessions and keeping those who have less than you at bay, you are not serving the lords best interests (the interests of the general populace) and therefor only your own.
Id like to hear these "thousands" more. Start a thread so we can all see the thousands of observations you made as well as providing source reference material. It would be very interesting to see your opinion and debate them as a matter of opinion.
Interesting and thought provoking post nonetheless. "
I don't see any flame emoticons, just a friendly hands together thumbs up...
What were you saying about not being a rage queen?
Ouch.
[edit on 15-1-2010 by FeralMonkeyMagic]